Airscrew Adjustment to fix off-idle stumble and Throttle Body Sync - w/ pigtails

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I have two items to cover here.

1) Airscrew adjustment to fix the off-idle stumble that some have complained about, especially in the California model.

2) Throttle Body Sync that will apply to all models. The TBS has to be done after the airscrew adjustment as part of the process.
I also installed pigtails to the ports to stay installed to make checking the sync later a simple process that will not involve lifting the tank. If you have to make adjustments, you will have to lift the tank to access the screw on the left, but the check is easy without lifting to see if a change is needed.

According to the Yamaha technician that I spoke to, the off-idle stumble and low RPM rough running issues are caused by the adjustment that Yamaha has to make to pass emissions. He said the airscrews are adjusted all the way in from the factory. The service manual says not to adjust the standard airscrew (the one on the right side with white paint on it). For this fix, you adjust both.

Here is the fix:

1) Remove side panels, and tilt tank up to gain access the throttle bodies.
2) The right Airscrew on mine was the standard with white paint. The service manual says not to adjust this one. For this fix, you adjust both of them three quarters of a turn out, (counter-clockwise rotation 270 degrees).
Once they are both rotated 270 degrees out, then you adjust the unpainted one in or out to do the throttle body sync. This puts the Airscrews in the needed position for smooth low RPM running.


I marked my screws with a sharpie ahead of time to be sure of the original location and to see what adjustment I ultimately made to the screws.

Here is the right side standard before adjustment.


Here is the left side before adjustment.


Here is my left side airscrew after the throttle body sync. I ended up having to adjust it back in about an eighth of a turn to get in sync after the adjustment.



The actual Throttle Body Sync is very straight-forward and is outlined in the service manual in section 3-8.
I did install pigtails on my ports to stay connected as I mentioned earlier.
You can see them in my pictures above.

Here they are before I put them in place.


The materials you need for this are:
1) about two feet of 5/32 vacuum hose
2) Two .1875" brass barb connectors
3) two 5/32 vacuum caps
4) One .1875" Vacuum "T" connector
5) three small spring hose clamps to ensure no vacuum leaks.

For the left port you cut three sections of tubing to 1.5", 3.25" and 6".
For the right port, cut one section of tubing to 8".

Assemble them as shown in the picture. Install on the ports and route as shown in the pictures.
When you do a TBS, pull the vacuum cap off of the hose barb and connect your manometer. After the sync, cap the barb and leave in place for the next time you need to check sync.
I suggest you use the small spring hose clamps at the two ports and the plastic nipple on the left side. I tried it without these first and got an engine light fault on decel from a vacuum leak.
A smaller diameter .125" ID hose would be better, like the small one that is removed from the left side, but I could not find that at my auto parts store.
You can also remove the pigtails and replace the original tubing and cap and access this once the tank is down. You can add the pigtails back without having to lift the tank.


This was an easy fix to the off-idle stumble and made a huge difference.
The bike actually idles along on its own now and will run in first gear at about 8mph with no throttle input.
I hope this helps.
 

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good work Devin, I don't know where you have the time to do this.

thanks!
 

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Great work Devin.. Nice write up with pictures. ::012::
 

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Cool. Good to know that it may be either airscrew that is painted as the "standard setting".
I was happy with the improvement too. Try the CO adjustment too.
 

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I just got back from a test ride after doing this as stated, although I didn't permanently attach the hose setup to the bike. It performs much much better than stock. I also can idle down the road at about 8 MPH with no throttle applied.
Additionally: vibration and driveline snatch/popping have been all but eliminated. There's still the harmonic at about 3600, but nothing like it was before. I rode it for a while for the road test. I'm also getting a slight improvement in fuel mileage, about 1/2 MPG. Not much, but along with everything else, it is a real improvement. This is the easiest "upgrade" I've done recently. Strongly recommended!

Thanks Speedstar, for the input, we all owe you one. ::003:: ::008::



SpeedStar said:
I have two items to cover here.

1) Airscrew adjustment to fix the off-idle stumble that some have complained about, especially in the California model.

2) Throttle Body Sync that will apply to all models. The TBS has to be done after the airscrew adjustment as part of the process.
I also installed pigtails to the ports to stay installed to make checking the sync later a simple process that will not involve lifting the tank. If you have to make adjustments, you will have to lift the tank to access the screw on the left, but the check is easy without lifting to see if a change is needed.

According to the Yamaha technician that I spoke to, the off-idle stumble and low RPM rough running issues are caused by the adjustment that Yamaha has to make to pass emissions. He said the airscrews are adjusted all the way in from the factory. The service manual says not to adjust the standard airscrew (the one on the right side with white paint on it). For this fix, you adjust both.

Here is the fix:

1) Remove side panels, and tilt tank up to gain access the throttle bodies.
2) The right Airscrew on mine was the standard with white paint. The service manual says not to adjust this one. For this fix, you adjust both of them three quarters of a turn out, (counter-clockwise rotation 270 degrees).
Once they are both rotated 270 degrees out, then you adjust the unpainted one in or out to do the throttle body sync. This puts the Airscrews in the needed position for smooth low RPM running.


I marked my screws with a sharpie ahead of time to be sure of the original location and to see what adjustment I ultimately made to the screws.

Here is the right side standard before adjustment.


Here is the left side before adjustment.


Here is my left side airscrew after the throttle body sync. I ended up having to adjust it back in about an eighth of a turn to get in sync after the adjustment.



The actual Throttle Body Sync is very straight-forward and is outlined in the service manual in section 3-8.
I did install pigtails on my ports to stay connected as I mentioned earlier.
You can see them in my pictures above.

Here they are before I put them in place.


The materials you need for this are:
1) about two feet of 5/32 vacuum hose
2) Two .1875" brass barb connectors
3) two 5/32 vacuum caps
4) One .1875" Vacuum "T" connector
5) three small spring hose clamps to ensure no vacuum leaks.

For the left port you cut three sections of tubing to 1.5", 3.25" and 6".
For the right port, cut one section of tubing to 8".

Assemble them as shown in the picture. Install on the ports and route as shown in the pictures.
When you do a TBS, pull the vacuum cap off of the hose barb and connect your manometer. After the sync, cap the barb and leave in place for the next time you need to check sync.
I suggest you use the small spring hose clamps at the two ports and the plastic nipple on the left side. I tried it without these first and got an engine light fault on decel from a vacuum leak.
A smaller diameter .125" ID hose would be better, like the small one that is removed from the left side, but I could not find that at my auto parts store.
You can also remove the pigtails and replace the original tubing and cap and access this once the tank is down. You can add the pigtails back without having to lift the tank.


This was an easy fix to the off-idle stumble and made a huge difference.
The bike actually idles along on its own now and will run in first gear at about 8mph with no throttle input.
I hope this helps.
 

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Mellow said:
Just tried this. My left screw was the one w/white paint on it.

Backed both out 270 degrees.

Appears to be MUCH improved as far as the stumble is concerned, I'm not sure if it's completely gone or I'm so used to it I'm anticipating it but I think this is a good adjustment.

Thanks!
Joe, did you do a TBS as well?
 

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ColoRider said:
Joe, did you do a TBS as well?
I think he simply enriched both sides equally.

Assuming factory synchronization, one could incrementally and equally enrich each side until the stumble disappeared. Then you could stay closer to the draconian emission requirements, make the bike run better, and keep Al Gore happier, all at the same time. ::003::

Maybe someone smarter than I could expand on whether this is reasonable logic or not.

Paul
 

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On my bike the TB's were in synch at the stock settings. After turning each airscrew out 3/4 of a turn, they were still in synch specifications. I did get them a bit closer with some tweaking of the non-painted screw.
 

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Mellow said:
Correct, I didn't do anything but the airscrews themselves.
Good call, Joe! I guess my suggestion was to incrementally bring them out equally from stock until the stumble was eliminated. Perhaps a number of factors, such as elevation (I'm in the Rockies) would not require as much or maybe more adjustment than you needed.

Paul
 

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SisuTen said:
Good call, Joe! I guess my suggestion was to incrementally bring them out equally from stock until the stumble was eliminated. Perhaps a number of factors, such as elevation (I'm in the Rockies) would not require as much or maybe more adjustment than you needed.

Paul
I'm getting some stumble on mine, but had planned to wait a few more miles to see if it got any better. BTW, my FJR had some initial stumble as well and a little tweak of the idle and time seemed to take care of it (or I just learned to compensate for it - not sure which).

I think I'll wait till I hit 1K miles before I try adjusting it.
 

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Mellow said:
Mine had 1500 on it when I did it. The stumble didn't seem like it was going away so I figured it couldn't hurt anything.
I'll be ready at CoSTOC, so you can give me some pointers there!!!

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Mellow said:
Sorry, can't make it.. .too much going on at home unfortunately.
Oh? I thought you were coming. Was really looking forward to seeing your bike in person!!!
 

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ColoRider said:
Oh? I thought you were coming. Was really looking forward to seeing your bike in person!!!
Doesn't Joe have a Black bike?
 

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