A More Affordable Flash Option?

WJBertrand

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BlueDog69

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I see you turned the white screw, (In the YouTube video)
I'm unable to move mine, I thought they were fixed in position on 2014 models and above.
Is mine just seized.
 

TenereGUY

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I see you turned the white screw, (In the YouTube video)
I'm unable to move mine, I thought they were fixed in position on 2014 models and above.
Is mine just seized.
Most likely fully closed. That's how I found mine.

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mikeshoop

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I am thinking about starting to offer flashing for Teneres. As some of you may know, I worked with Flash Tune to unlock the mystery of the Tenere ECU. I've been working for ~6 months on/off making a "flash" that I am pretty happy with and I wanted to make sure the process was reliable and risk free. I have now flashed my personal ECU over 2 dozen times with no issues.

I have flashed a few others and the reviews are quite positive, here is one from OKLRIDER:

"Skimming this thread, I came across an offer from ac (avc8130) in one of his posts that he'd be willing to flash others' ECMs as an experiment. He'd already developed what he thought was a pretty solid flash, and simply wanted opinions. After some emails back and forth, I took him up on it. ::008::

We talked back and forth about riding style, likes, dislikes, etc. A couple of shipping labels, a cardboard box, and a ride to the UPS Store later...it was off. I anxiously awaited the return of my black box, riding the wife's KLX250 in the interim. About a week or so later, it was back! Like a kid at Christmas I was into the package, and out to the garage. Reassembly, check. Ignition on, check. Starter, and it still runs...woohoo! :D My initial impressions after coming back on it from the KLX were words that would probably get me banned. ::26::

He ended up putting three different maps in; one for standard 'T', one for standard 'S', and one in experimental that we'll call '2S'. Right out of the box the difference was noticeable in both 'T' and 'S', but I quickly fell in love with '2S'. This extra map is accessed with the CJM. Had I known then what I know now, it'd probably be my 'S' map. ::024::

I've been running around with his flash for about 800mi now. 600 of that was on a road trip, the other 200 from commuting. I wanted to get a more solid and honest feel for it before posting an impulse "OMG! This is the best thing ever!" response. My main goal was throttle response, and boy did I get it with '2S'! It's like an on/off switch now. Daddy like! You can ride it like a hooligan. Guilty. Or you can cruise at 80 in high gear, and accelerate further with ease. It's hard to describe without being too dramatic. You really have to ride one to feel the difference. It's really amazing the difference a few 1s and 0s can make.

This is a small, one Tenere town, so I've got nothing to compare it to but memory....but wow...big difference over stock. Ac was/is a standup guy. Knows his stuff, and was cool enough to share knowledge to help promote this small market that we all ride in. Well worth the effort. ::008:: ::26:: ::001::"

I'm thinking of offering my flash service for $100 plus round trip shipping. I don't want to infringe on Chris' service at Flash Tune, and that is what he charges.

I can customize the flash quite a bit, offering different throttle maps (Both T and S modes) as well as different engine braking or timing. Fan temps are adjustable, and we can even setup a quick shifter!

For those with PCV's, I can attempt to write your fuel maps straight to the ECU.

Anyone interested?

ac

EDIT:

Pay attention to this thread! This is a fluid situation. The flash itself is evolving. The shipping/pricing/policies are evolving. I realize there are quite a few pages and many posts, if there is any question/confusion feel free to PM me.
I'm interested, I'm in TN, are you anywhere close? I'd like to bring it to you if that's do-able rather than remove the ecu - I've watched the video, looks like a lot of trouble. thanks looking forward to it either way. Mike Shoop
 

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I am thinking about starting to offer flashing for Teneres. As some of you may know, I worked with Flash Tune to unlock the mystery of the Tenere ECU. I've been working for ~6 months on/off making a "flash" that I am pretty happy with and I wanted to make sure the process was reliable and risk free. I have now flashed my personal ECU over 2 dozen times with no issues.

I have flashed a few others and the reviews are quite positive, here is one from OKLRIDER:

"Skimming this thread, I came across an offer from ac (avc8130) in one of his posts that he'd be willing to flash others' ECMs as an experiment. He'd already developed what he thought was a pretty solid flash, and simply wanted opinions. After some emails back and forth, I took him up on it. ::008::

We talked back and forth about riding style, likes, dislikes, etc. A couple of shipping labels, a cardboard box, and a ride to the UPS Store later...it was off. I anxiously awaited the return of my black box, riding the wife's KLX250 in the interim. About a week or so later, it was back! Like a kid at Christmas I was into the package, and out to the garage. Reassembly, check. Ignition on, check. Starter, and it still runs...woohoo! :D My initial impressions after coming back on it from the KLX were words that would probably get me banned. ::26::

He ended up putting three different maps in; one for standard 'T', one for standard 'S', and one in experimental that we'll call '2S'. Right out of the box the difference was noticeable in both 'T' and 'S', but I quickly fell in love with '2S'. This extra map is accessed with the CJM. Had I known then what I know now, it'd probably be my 'S' map. ::024::

I've been running around with his flash for about 800mi now. 600 of that was on a road trip, the other 200 from commuting. I wanted to get a more solid and honest feel for it before posting an impulse "OMG! This is the best thing ever!" response. My main goal was throttle response, and boy did I get it with '2S'! It's like an on/off switch now. Daddy like! You can ride it like a hooligan. Guilty. Or you can cruise at 80 in high gear, and accelerate further with ease. It's hard to describe without being too dramatic. You really have to ride one to feel the difference. It's really amazing the difference a few 1s and 0s can make.

This is a small, one Tenere town, so I've got nothing to compare it to but memory....but wow...big difference over stock. Ac was/is a standup guy. Knows his stuff, and was cool enough to share knowledge to help promote this small market that we all ride in. Well worth the effort. ::008:: ::26:: ::001::"

I'm thinking of offering my flash service for $100 plus round trip shipping. I don't want to infringe on Chris' service at Flash Tune, and that is what he charges.

I can customize the flash quite a bit, offering different throttle maps (Both T and S modes) as well as different engine braking or timing. Fan temps are adjustable, and we can even setup a quick shifter!

For those with PCV's, I can attempt to write your fuel maps straight to the ECU.

Anyone interested?

ac

EDIT:

Pay attention to this thread! This is a fluid situation. The flash itself is evolving. The shipping/pricing/policies are evolving. I realize there are quite a few pages and many posts, if there is any question/confusion feel free to PM me.
Quickshifter? What are the advantages/disadvantages?

Can you also do autoblip for gear down shifting?
 

thughes317

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I'm interested, I'm in TN, are you anywhere close? I'd like to bring it to you if that's do-able rather than remove the ecu - I've watched the video, looks like a lot of trouble. thanks looking forward to it either way. Mike Shoop
You'll have better luck shooting him a private message (just hover over his user name and choose "start conversation"). I had Anthony flash my S10 years ago and can't say enough good things about his work, the results, and the turnaround time.

He's in NJ, so shipping is going to be the way to go. (ecu has to come out of the bike anyway.....)
 

Capoman

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Hello,

I ride my ST120, DP07 2021 Super tenere. All stock.

What do you suggest about Flesh ECU? Which company would be good to flesh ECU for my motorcycle model (DP07 - 2020). If everything is stock (original), it is even worth to flasch ecu? What are the benefits after processing?

Thnx for replay...

Regards from Slovenija :)
 

kmasa58

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Slovenija,

You might be limited on what can be done while your bike is all stock condition. It's probably best if you can contact a shop where ECU Flash service is provided & get the details.

I have a 2018 XT12es with K&N filter & Arrow collectors/down-tube using stock muffler. I had my ECU flashed by '2 Wheels Dyno Works' in Kirkland, WA USA & at first I only noticed a small difference. However, I now have 25k miles on the clock & I can really feel the difference in mid-range which it keeps pulling. Aside from the cooling fan kicking early at around 200F and 1st 3(4?) gears restriction removed, the bike has transformed. The thottle snatchiness that was there in sport-mode has deminished, but not completely eliminated.

Good luck!
 

Capoman

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Slovenija,

You might be limited on what can be done while your bike is all stock condition. It's probably best if you can contact a shop where ECU Flash service is provided & get the details.

I have a 2018 XT12es with K&N filter & Arrow collectors/down-tube using stock muffler. I had my ECU flashed by '2 Wheels Dyno Works' in Kirkland, WA USA & at first I only noticed a small difference. However, I now have 25k miles on the clock & I can really feel the difference in mid-range which it keeps pulling. Aside from the cooling fan kicking early at around 200F and 1st 3(4?) gears restriction removed, the bike has transformed. The thottle snatchiness that was there in sport-mode has deminished, but not completely eliminated.

Good luck!

Ok..Thnx's for replay.

I will onley put new slip on Akrapović exhaust on my ST....must put some pipe made by my country

I'm loking on this company to flash ecu.

https://www.off-the-road.de/de/xt-1200z/entdrosselung-ecu/


I'm looking
 
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