2014+ Aux Plugs/Electrics vs Other Models

[EdOnS10]

happy 2015 All!
In case there are people out there trying to wire some new toys (like me )- I thought it would be nice to play fill in the table... It seems there is an info gap out there for the 2014 ES models on the 4pin connectors. At least my googleFu was not up to the task... I would like to get some verified answers and then will edit the post to just read like a one-stop table for easy reference and easier searching... So if you can contribute, please let us know specific behavior of those plugs.

In particular - the 2014 ES seems to have a different wiring of the 4pin harness (next to the 3pin aux plug under the right pannel) than is described by other forum members with different models...

Unknown / unconfirmed :
4-pin Female Aux connector:
Black/White stripe = Ground
Red / Blue stripe = 12V Always ON (Fuse?)
Blue/ Black stripe = ?? Seems off, then around 3-4V with ignition? (but my DMM is jacked so I don't trust that)
Blue/ Red stripe = ?? Seems off, then around 3-4V with ignition? (but my DMM is jacked so I don't trust that)

4-pin Male Connector - Under Seat:
Black = ??
Light Blue = ??
Light Green = ??
White / Red stripe = ??



Confirmed All Models
3-pin Female Aux connector (A.K.A. Aux Light Plug):
Black = Ground
Red / White stripe = 12V always on with 20A fuse
Brown = 12V on when ignition is on with 20A fuse
see = http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=12961.msg206771#msg206771


Seems to be true for 2013- Models
4-pin Female Aux connector (A.K.A. Heated Grip Plug):
Blue/black stripe =12V when ignition is ON (Fuse?)
Black/green stripe =12V when headlights are on (Fuse?)
Black = Ground
Light Green/White Stripe = goes to ECU... not sure what that means behavior-wise...

2014+ all models
There are two true (two pin) heated grip connectors for the oem grips on the right side... See discussion and pic at http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=14461.0
This is different than the 4pin aux plug, so we will have to stop calling it the grip connector.... The plot thickens ???

Additional Notes

Fuses
See the picture below but:

2014+ 2013-
1. Headlight 20A Same
2. ABS solenoid 20A Same
3. Electronic Throttle valve 7.5A Same
4. Fuel Injection System 20A Same but 10A
5. Backup (for clock) 7.5A Same
6. Radiator Fan 20A Same
7. Ignition 20A Same
8. Signaling System 7.5A Same but 10A
9. ABS Control Unit 7.5A Same
10. Auxiliary DC Jack 3.0A Same
11. Parking Lighting 7.5A "Taillight" 7.5A
12. O/P (option) 20A Same
13. Suspension Fuse 15A (ES ONLY) N/A
14. Spare Fuses Same

elsewhere:
1. ABS Motor 30A (has spare next to it) - left of fuse boxes
2. Main Fuse 50A (has spare next to it 2014+) - upper cowling
3. Cruise Control 1.0A - upper cowling 2014+
4. BreakLight 1A - upper cowling 2014+

Found by JRE - some info on the breaklights (more info at http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=1500.msg223366#msg223366)

The brown wire is now dark gray with a blue stripe and the green and brown striped is now green and dark grey striped. To summarize:

Admore wires Bike Wires
-------------------------------------------
Blue & Red Blue
Purple Yellow
Green *Dark Gray and Green striped
Yellow *Dark Gray and Blue stripe
Black Black

*changes to the 2014+

If you have additional information on other connectors like the test harnesses under the seat - I would be interested to capture that here as well. But let's leave discussion about what to hook up where or how awesome Eastern Beaver modules are (they are honestly a great idea by the way) stuff to other threads.. That way the technical details don't get lost in another 10page thread...



Thanks in advance!!

::017::

 

[JRE]

Re: 2014 ES Aux Plug Pinouts vs Other Models

Thanks for this, I think it will be helpful although I have nothing useful to add to what you already have other than ask if you can update the OP with information posted herein so that it's consolidated and one doesn't have to scroll through the entire thread to find all of the info.

On a related note, I did find some differences in the wiring for the rear lights as documented HERE

The brown wire is now dark gray with a blue stripe and the green and brown striped is now green and dark grey striped. To summarize:

Admore wires Bike Wires
-------------------------------------------
Blue & Red Blue
Purple Yellow
Green *Dark Gray and Green striped
Yellow *Dark Gray and Blue stripe
Black Black

*changes to the 2014+

 

[EdOnS10]

Re: 2014 ES Aux Plug Pinouts vs Other Models

BTW - I guess these connector pin-outs are a mystery LOL - I am getting similar silent treatment from a local dealer..
Anyone feel free to chime in or see if your favorite tech knows... I will continue to consolidate any notes people come up with.
Thanks!
Edward

 

[EdOnS10]

Added some fuse info and changed the title to cover the expanded topic of electrics in general...
Still no word on the mysterious 4pin Aux plug for the 2014+/ES....

 

[gaps]

I found these 3 and 4 wire plugs on my 2014 standard today, you can see in pic below where I point with yellow pen, that white bit tucked in the back is where they were. I pulled them down and exposed them as shown in the other pic

Here are the colors I found;

The 4 wire has the following colored wires;
Black w/ white
Blue w/ black
Blue w/ red
Red w/ green

The 3 wire has;
Red w/ white
Brown
Black



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[JRE]

::008:: they are hard to find in that rat's nest under there

 

[EdOnS10]

Added link to the heated grip connector thread... And removed non ES 2014+ from confirmed 4pin status, since it too has the actual 2-pin plugs... But still no winners on 4pin aux... Keep playing or stay tuned ::26::

 

[Super10NJ]

I'm guessing that it was easier/cheaper for Yamaha to simply reuse the old wiring harness in the 14+ and that's why the plugs are still the same as the 13' More plugs for us, maybe i'll connect a mini fridge (beer ::016: to the open 4 prong. Also consider that you can use the older heated grip kit if that is a preference to someone, not to mention that Yamaha can continue selling the old kits and dealers can get rid of any they might have still had in stock.

 

[HoebSTer]

The 4 pin connector was used for the Euro Yamaha fog light accessory which comes with plug n play kit to plug right into this 4 pin connector. If i have this backwards, then it is for heated grips and the 3 pin is for lights, but you get my point.

Jeff

 

[Super10NJ]

The 4 pin connector was used for the Euro Yamaha fog light accessory which comes with plug n play kit to plug right into this 4 pin connector. If i have this backwards, then it is for heated grips and the 3 pin is for lights, but you get my point.

Jeff

The 14+ has new and separate plugs for heated grips, so the "original" 3 and 4 prong plugs are available for whatever.

 

[EdOnS10]

Agreed (the three pin is still an aux light plug-n-play. Or if you like, the plug-n-play 3cs from eastern beaver ;-)
Also agreed that the 4pin is now free (not used by heated grips) to use for "whatever"

I think what I was getting with this thread is when you go to plug in your whatever, it's good to know what all the wires are connected to underneath.

I figure the minimum useful knowledge to use a pin on a plug is:
1. Voltage
2. Applied when (all the time, ignition on, brights on etc.)
3. Amp rating of the fuse it is run through

Also nice to know what else is connected through that fuse, so you know the load it sees without your whatever...

I think we know the 4pin has power and ground that are always on... My question in particular is what are 1-3 of the other two pins on that plug? Can they for example run the piaa relay for non plug n play versions? That's what seems different from the 2013 and earlier models for which that info is available...

Any ideas? Inquiring minds want to know thanks for all the replies so far!

 

[Super10NJ]

Thank you for what you have posted so far as I'm pretty much going by what info I have gathered from this forum. Having said that If the 4 prong was meant for the heated grips on the first gen i'd assume that it doesn't have a direct to battery connection, (I could def be wrong) It is doubtful Yamaha would let you potentially get stranded because people would keep forgetting to turn the grips off. Hopefully i'll have time to hit the plugs with a multimeter tomorrow. Also cool to note is that the 4 prong could potentially be split for dual use since it powered two different thing, ie the left and right grips.

 

[Mikeybikey57]

Which wire?

I've just ordered an LED light bar to fit in the gap under the headlights and i'm thinking about wiring it up to come on with the main beam.

I've had a good look at the lighting circuit wiring diagram and it looks as though i'll need to tap into the L/B wire (light blue?) between the headlight relay and the dip/main shutter mechanism, to switch the relay i'm planning to use in the circuit.

Has anyone here also done it this way and can tell me if i'm on the right track or not?

 

[Huero]

Re: Which wire?

I've just ordered an LED light bar to fit in the gap under the headlights and i'm thinking about wiring it up to come on with the main beam.

I've had a good look at the lighting circuit wiring diagram and it looks as though i'll need to tap into the L/B wire (light blue?) between the headlight relay and the dip/main shutter mechanism, to switch the relay i'm planning to use in the circuit.

Has anyone here also done it this way and can tell me if i'm on the right track or not?

I am trying to do this same thing. I wonder if you ever figured out which wire to tap for the "signal" for the relay?

Thanks,
Huero

 

[Blu3B3ast]

I am reviving this thread. With pictures.

I have read thru several posting about connectors, but I am having trouble picturing some of them and figuring out what they are for. So, I went digging and taking pics. Can you experts help me identify what these are for and if known, whether they are managed by the ignition switch or not? (yes, I could stick a volt meter in the holes and find out, but..)

I am happy to document the pictures further just so there is a better record for noobs like me.

 

[tomatocity]

I am reviving this thread. With pictures.

I have read thru several posting about connectors, but I am having trouble picturing some of them and figuring out what they are for. So, I went digging and taking pics. Can you experts help me identify what these are for and if known, whether they are managed by the ignition switch or not? (yes, I could stick a volt meter in the holes and find out, but..)

I am happy to document the pictures further just so there is a better record for noobs like me.

Please list the Year and Model that you are documenting. This will help future riders find the information they need.

 

[Blu3B3ast]

Model XT1200Z, 2014, Standard (non-ES).

 

[awe]

I'm trying to find out how to connect an alarm system to my XT1200ZE (2016, DP04) - which is a.k.a. XT1200ES on US market.
But first, regarding the thread opener:
I took my multimeter to measure the 4-pin and 3-pin plug located on the right side next to the tool set.
Also my ZE (=ES) is equipped with grip warmer and other things… but:

## 3-pin plug
- red / white = +12V
- black = GND
- brown = +12V ignition

## 4-pin plug
- black / white with brown strip = ? (TBD)
- red / green with brown strip = +12V
- blue / red = ? (TBD)
- blue / black with brown strip = ? (TBD)
==> TBDs are not defined voltage. I guess I need to get the oscilloscope from my Dad's home, seems to be digital wire, not discrete anymore., eventually connected to any control unit?

Now, second, coming to my "project":
Preferrably I would like to place the small box (alarm system) underneath the 2nd seat.
According to my research on previous versions (DP01, 2010) Yamaha was so generous to spend a separate connector for exactly that purpose, it's located below the 1st seat (see first picture) and is called Connector "19", has 6 pins (GND, +12V, turn signal left, turn signal right, immobilizer signal).
On my bike I disassembled the covering below my first seat and couldn't find this d*mn plug! Obviously and unfortunately Yamaha decided to remove this connector on newer versions like mine.

Now I got here both wiring diagrams from the DP01 (2010) and DP04 (2014+) and compared with the result: yes, they removed the plug!

For my alarm system (LEGOS 4, DEF-COM 3) I need at least following wires: GND, +12V, +12V ignition, both turn signals, horn (not necessarily, because it brings its own beeper).

How to proceed? I'm thinking of following solution:
- for the +12V/ign/GND story I would use the 3-pin plug under the right cover
- for the turn signals: I will use the turn signal going to the rear, which are plugged in the connection area underneath the 1st seat.
But instead of damaging the wires I could insert a short cable with Y-connection (break-out wire) for each connector (1 male -- 2" cable -- 1 female; for each side) The connectors are called "82"/"83".

Now coming to my questions: ;D
- Has anybody experience on this?
- Does anybody know the exact type of plugs for the 3-pin rear turn signals (see picture 2) and the 3-pin under the right cover?

Regarding plugs... I found this web-sites:
http://easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/SM-MT/sm-mt.html
http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/Elec__Products/Connectors/Sealed/sealed.html

Sorry for my potential funny English (I'm German)…

Best regards,
Axel

 

[Al-n2it]

I just starting reading this topic so please excuse me if the four pin info below has been covered.

I am researching the 3 pin connector to be used to power my elect vest (draws 5 amps) off the switched wire and power my GPS and a USB port off the alway hot wire. I like to work on my GPS without the bike on and want to charge phones and Sena Coms unit while parked from a USB port.

I have found the following info in the 2014 service manual regarding the four pin plug.
it is a connector for a diag tool.

 

[AVGeek]

I just starting reading this topic so please excuse me if the four pin info below has been covered.

I am researching the 3 pin connector to be used to power my elect vest (draws 5 amps) off the switched wire and power my GPS and a USB port off the alway hot wire. I like to work on my GPS without the bike on and want to charge phones and Sena Coms unit while parked from a USB port.

I have found the following info in the 2014 service manual regarding the four pin plug.
it is a connector for a diag tool.

Many of us with both the Gen 1 and Gen 2 bikes have used the 3 prong connector to control an aux fuse block. Given the power needs you are describing, it would be the preferred option.