Life! (corona virus, non informative, non hysterical post)

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one other thing , Luby's a large Texas restaurant chain announced they are closing their doors for good . hundreds more jobs gone because of fear , hundreds of people who have no idea what they are going to do for work tomorrow . wonder what kind of hope they have today.
 

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I don't take anybody's number in this too absolutely, the point was simply that potential long term affects greatly out-weigh the fatalities. Saying there are not that many hospitalizations defies common sense in the other direction, since few people go to the hospital while getting over the virus at home.

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Everybody needs to move to Hayes County, Texas!

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Here is a reason why many people may be skeptical of the numbers on Covid.

Collin County is the seventh largest county Texas with a population of 1,005,150 and here is a screen shot of the dashboard on Covid cases:

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I saw that on the news. I find it interesting that Collin Co. is the only county in Texas that is standing up, and saying that the numbers are BS. (254 counties in TX)
 

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What happened with the shortage of ventilators? I haven’t heard anything about a lack of them for a while. The numbers and deaths don’t support the hysteria. Now the focus shifts to “if you recover” you “are going to have deminished lung capacity, blood clots, stroke, or whatever else they can come up with “. How does that make any sense when so many have tested positive and hardly had any symptoms? Which is why we are supposed to be wearing masks in the first place. “ I don’t know I have it so I wear a mask to help not spread it“.

I guess it’s selfish to send your kids to school. If you believe that kids are going to distance themselves AND wear a mask you are delusional.

Picture taken by me yesterday of a group of kids on a corner just after school let out. If the group of 50 kids on the corner approximately 5 were wearing masks. The crossing guard’s mask isn’t even on her nose.

And yet even with school back in session we are not seeing this explosive outbreak of spread.

Is it coincidence this happens in an election year? People want someone to blame.

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These examples of numbers are interesting and I am now taking another look at what I have been doing for years with regard to risk management. In the case of motorcycling, I have been riding for 55 years and always have worn a helmet. When I look back at those years and the many miles I have ridden and the many days I have ridden, I see that a helmet only saved me from serious injury or possible death once, when I hit a deer back in 1993. Why am I continuing to spend money on quality helmets, put up with the hassle of putting it on, taking it off, finding a place to put it before I go into Wal Mart if it is only needed once every 55 years? Makes no sense. Heck, the odds of needing a helmet in a motorcycle crash are way less than the odds of dying from the corona virus. In our rural county, there have been 11 corona deaths this year and no cases of motorcyclists dying from head injuries. Makes me wonder how many died in car crashes in our county because they didn't wear seat belts. As I begin to calculate the odds of many things I am doing to try to improve my chances of living beyond my 77 years, I see that I should avoid anything with low odds of adding to those years. From now on, I am not going to live in fear!
 

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and back to the numbers ... 160000 deaths and 19 hospitalizations for every death is 3,040,000 in the hospital in America .... it hasn't happened . every holiday they say it's going to blow up , numbers here say that's not so . the numbers are going down every day . thankfully and hopefully it is going down everywhere .....
Glad to hear your numbers are going down in Texas, not so here in Wisconsin. The seven day average is about 900 new cases everyday and trending upward. There are spikes after every holiday weekend and the numbers by county indicate the spread is caused by the tourist season. Most of the northern counties saw increases all summer long. Until recently I could say that I did not know of anyone who contracted the virus. Well, that has changed, I now personally know 7 people who have it or have recently recovered. One guy who I worked with years ago spent 32 days in the hospital. I spoke to his wife yesterday as he can not talk on the phone yet. He is on oxygen and sleeps 16 hours a day, but the doctors released him from the hospital. He is 60 years old and was in reasonably good health. She told me how bad it was and that the doctors called her 3 times and told her that he wasn't going to make it through the night. She went on to say that you have to do everything you can to avoid catching this virus. Another girl described it as 3 weeks of hell in a hospital and is still not over it. The others recovered at home. This virus is real. It's not a numbers game.
 

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World health organization has declared today, suicide awareness day , stating that 800000 people will kill them selves around the world. That’s a pandemic if there ever was one . How does pushing the fear narrative help these people. The answer is clear it doesn’t. It takes what hope they might have left away. And then they are gone. 800000 Suicide deaths each year around the world, as with every other thing that kills us we have become used to it . No one cries about the AIDS deaths that continue to kill its 100’s of thousands around the world. The list goes on. But some how this is different. This is more dangerous. It is dangerous for some not for others. But fear is dangerous for all . Fear has diminished your freedom. Fear will take your life.
 

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there is a small tourist town west of San Antonio , called Leaky . motorcyclist no it as a place to ride the three sisters . down the street is a state park and a community of Concan , those who enjoy camping and the Frio river end up there . Monday the wife and myself were there , ate in a restaurant , no restrictions of any kind (felt like I went back in time ) no mask required etc.and it was packed . asked the manager why no mask , she says only 4 cases in the county since January and no fatalities . lots of older people live here . and hundreds of tourist there every day from all over the state and nation . no spikes no nothing and no social distancing . seems something not quite what it seems . i don't want to catch this crap or the flu or a cold , hell being sick sucks no matter the cause . I do what is required to protect me and my family ,always have . but numbers can be twisted ,facts what facts . there is a whole lot of politics in this . we who ride understand we could be hurt or killed on the bike we ride . we wear gear to mitigate the damage as much as possible . only one way to be 100% safe with a bike and that is to stay off it . but ride we do because we like it . I have to take care of my family , do I stay home and let them starve because I'm afraid ? there are a lot of things to be concerned about in this world ,this is just one more . no worse than anything else that the world has experienced man made or natural . common sense is a good thing , being careful another . fear and spreading it is a terrible thing that robs one of all possibilities for the future. fear says there is no future , fear says there is no hope , fear says you have to surrender .... fear destroys.
Found some numbers to agree with?
 

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All the deaths from other things has nothing to do with it. Taking precautions is smart not fearful. . . .
That's where I'm at. Fredz43 talks about always wearing a helmet, even though there was only one time that it was needed. I wear a helmet every time I ride. . . . I wear a seatbelt every time I'm in a car, front or back seat. . . . I wore Kevlar for over 28 years. . . .I get a flu shot every year. . . . and I wear a mask/gaiter every time I go out into public. I'm not a fearful person, but I do take precautions. I also understand that none of my precautions are 100%, but it would be silly not to take them. And. . . . I don't feel that I'm missing out on anything in my life. :)
 

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My biggest concern by far is me getting it and not knowing. Then giving it to my 85 yr old mother or anybody else. Wearing a mask is no big deal unless you make it one. I don't feel like my f--cking rights are being taken at all. BS. The mask mandate around here is really more of a suggestion. I haven't heard of anybody around here getting nailed for not wearing one. A lot of the stores here don't care. They want the $$$. I took a friend to Walmart today. I didn't go in. She realized she ddin't have her mask at the entrance. The walmart lady told her to go on in. It's gonna be interesting to see how Covid things go in two weeks.
 
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all the deaths from other things has nothing to do with it ...... harsh statement .... we all take precautions , people wear seat belts and cars have air bags , and people still die in cars. but we are used to that ,we except that is part of our lives that we might loose someone in a car , we will buy another as soon as the insurance check clears . I'm thinking people would be more upset if they said you can't drive your car than you have to self quarantine till you loose everything ..... in all this I have written im not saying its not a real disease , it is. I take precautions . I never liked being in crowds anyway . it is your 'rights" as an American that is in danger , there have been in most cases no legislation or votes to implement the rules they expect us to follow , just mandates or edicts telling us what we have to do. mayors and county judges to governors have gotten a taste of power , and most like it .that should be a thing we should be concerned about . you can burn down the cities no rules apply to you . have a party with friends in some places and they put the law on you.
all death matters , it affects every person on the planet . to say other deaths has nothing to do with it ..... dead is dead they are not controlling your lives with the other killers that stalk mankind . the back and forth misinformation(or information ) about this should have all of us questioning our elected leaders . that is the American way .
well good morning , just want to say this in closing . be careful but be discerning about what is happening . and some will not agree with my views , that's ok . I respect that . and I don't agree with some others views . is that not the American way also . dialog , debate , discussion , information . Tenman , I also have an 84 year old mother , we are all in this together. be safe.
 

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any one notice at least to me a lot more pregnant women around .... lock down having an effect .
Lots of pregnancies. Divorces. bankruptcies and foreclosures soon to follow. Except for the pregnancies, all unfortunate results of the virus. Yesterday we had 1,500 new cases in Wisconsin. 50% were in the 10-29 age group. Probably caused by some schools and colleges trying to open up.
 
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Estimates are that around 300,000 people are facing homelessness in Nevada due to the economic impact of coronavirus. Our governor refuses to even have a conversation about how to safely reopen the live events and entertainment industries here, yet video shows thousands congregating on Fremont Street over the Labor Day weekend, many without masks. So now I'm learning a new piece of software to help me more fully take advantage of the move to virtual events...
 
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