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A competent gunsmith can usually thread the existing barrel for a reasonable price.....
I think that would work for my Mark II with bull barrel and probably the Marlin 880. But is there such a thing as internal threading? The P90 and and Kahr CW9 don't have an extended barrel, so unless it could be done internally, I don't see any options there. There's a chance I might be able to find one for my wife's Sig.
 

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I've been researching getting a suppressor for some of the handguns. . . .
Depending on the gun, (sentimentality) and the cost of 'smithing, it may be easier to sell the old, and buy new. More and more manufacturers have threaded barrel versions of their products.
 

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I've been researching getting a suppressor for some of the handguns. What I've learned is I should have been thinking about that 20+ years ago before I bought the guns. Seems threaded barrels are not really available aftermarket unless you bought very specific brands or models. I'd really like to get a couple of suppressors, but gets awful expensive when you're also replacing the guns as well. :mad:
That has a lot to do with fitting. Say a 1911 is mostly drop in, but is still going to require hand fitting unless that specific barrel maker makes it for a "springfield 1911" Because there are 50 bajillion 1911 makers, nothing is going to be truly "drop in". Where as a glock 19 is so standardized you can easily make a drop in for it that will 100% function with no problems.

BTW if you are looking for a pistol to use with a suppressor. CZ is doing some really nice guns suppressor ready (scroll up in the thread you'll see one of my grey ones)
 

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I think that would work for my Mark II with bull barrel and probably the Marlin 880. But is there such a thing as internal threading? The P90 and and Kahr CW9 don't have an extended barrel, so unless it could be done internally, I don't see any options there. There's a chance I might be able to find one for my wife's Sig.
What sig? There is an aftermarket option for most of them I can point you in the right way.

Kinda sorta yes you can do an thread inside the slide , but in almost every single case it would be cheaper and better just to buy a new gun.


Fixed barrel guns like the MKII are the only real viable option to threading an existing pistol. Something super popular right now for the suppressor crowd is cutting Ruger 22's down to 2" barrels and putting 4" suppressors on them. Looks like a normal MKII or whatever. 2" is long enough for the bullet to stabilize and you can shoot any ammo including high velocity and it will stay subsonic.

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Your post verifies that you have to make a comment. My summation is correct for me. If you don't like something then don't read the thread.
Yes you are correct, I have verified I have to make a comment. That was the point of my comment.

"My summation is correct for me" sounds a little "trumpistic", like "alternative facts".

And of course I won't know I don't like a thread until I have read it.

I have forgotten the point of our conversation, but I enjoy the banter. I will try and curb my urge to comment on everything. My wife says I am a "know it all". I think she is right but it is hard to correct. Cheers.

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What sig? There is an aftermarket option for most of them I can point you in the right way.

Kinda sorta yes you can do an thread inside the slide , but in almost every single case it would be cheaper and better just to buy a new gun.


Fixed barrel guns like the MKII are the only real viable option to threading an existing pistol. Something super popular right now for the suppressor crowd is cutting Ruger 22's down to 2" barrels and putting 4" suppressors on them. Looks like a normal MKII or whatever. 2" is long enough for the bullet to stabilize and you can shoot any ammo including high velocity and it will stay subsonic.

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The Sig would be Dirt_Mom's P230SL. I'm guessing I could find a threaded for that. And the MKII in your photo is the exactly what I have with a bull barrel, that I figured could be cut down by gunsmith.

Not sure what I'll do. The dealer I spoke with said plan for 3 to 12 months for the stamp. Between the cans and the ATF fee alone I'm looking at $2K, plus new guns...it's getting steep. I like the idea of being quieter and saving hearing, but it's getting expensive. I may just try so sub-sonic ammo first to see if that really makes a difference.
 

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The Sig would be Dirt_Mom's P230SL. I'm guessing I could find a threaded for that. And the MKII in your photo is the exactly what I have with a bull barrel, that I figured could be cut down by gunsmith.

Not sure what I'll do. The dealer I spoke with said plan for 3 to 12 months for the stamp. Between the cans and the ATF fee alone I'm looking at $2K, plus new guns...it's getting steep. I like the idea of being quieter and saving hearing, but it's getting expensive. I may just try so sub-sonic ammo first to see if that really makes a difference.
Honest opinion I wouldn't bother with the 230. There are threaded barrels available, but they cost at minimum $250 (low demand/low production) I would say buy a new gun in this case.

Form 4 (commercially bought suppressors and short barrel rifle type stuff) the processing time is over 12 months right now. That is actually increasing because of the $1200 covid payment tons of people bought cans. Form 1 stuff (build it yourself stuff) is about....35 days.

Subsonic ammo wont make any real difference outside of 22lr.

If you are wanting to stick with pistols get something like a Griffin rev 9 ($700 +$200 for the stamp) get a CZ suppressor ready gun ($600) and have the MKII Threaded ($100) Also buying a threaded 10-22 would be something to consider as well.
 
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In Éire guns are not as freely available as in other countries. I have three one of which is my 12 Guage Remington 11-87.
Just curious are semi auto shotguns treated differently there than an over under or pump guns? I know in some of Europe its "easy" to get a over under as a sporting gun, but a semi auto would require a higher category license.
 

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I'd love to have suppressors on all of mine. But, it always comes back to that "investment v return" thing. I live in the county (rural) so I can legally practice in my yard. I have a completely safe short (15yd) range. If I need to zero a rifle, I'll just have my kid take me to the city range. And, for less than $30, I can get a set of electronic hearing protection. Legal everywhere, and convenient as hell. There's been "talk" (for years) that suppressors will be legal soon. I can only imagine that if they do become legal, manufactured ones will triple in price. . . . at least. Maybe I'll learn to make my own.
 

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I'd love to have suppressors on all of mine. But, it always comes back to that "investment v return" thing. I live in the county (rural) so I can legally practice in my yard. I have a completely safe short (15yd) range. If I need to zero a rifle, I'll just have my kid take me to the city range. And, for less than $30, I can get a set of electronic hearing protection. Legal everywhere, and convenient as hell. There's been "talk" (for years) that suppressors will be legal soon. I can only imagine that if they do become legal, manufactured ones will triple in price. . . . at least. Maybe I'll learn to make my own.
Zero chance of the "Hearing Protection Act" (aka over the counter suppressors) ever getting passed now.

Doing a Form 1 build these days is easy. diversified machine sells well built kits for rifles in the $300 range. You literally drill 7 holes and have a suppressor. Still have to pay the $200 tax stamp, but the wait time is only about a month. If you ever get serious about it let me know.
 

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Completely ignorant about Form 1 stuff. Will need to look into that one.
Form 1 is basically a one time license to build a suppressor or SBR/SBS. There is a ton of aftermarket support for them these days. For a rifle suppressor built well (Titanium and steel) you are looking around $300 to make a pistol can around $400. Diversified Machine and others make kits. DM is kind shy about how he posts the kits. If it is listed as a kit it includes the baffles and spacers, But he does not show the baffles because he doesn't want to get into it with the ATF.

If you have a drill press, 7 holes and you have a quality item. If you ever want to get serious about it let me know.
 

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If you have a drill press, 7 holes and you have a quality item. If you ever want to get serious about it let me know.
I don't have a drill press, but I could probably come up with $70 and a way to get to Harbor Freight if that's really all it takes to build one.

Interesting...
 

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I don't have a drill press, but I could probably come up with $70 and a way to get to Harbor Freight if that's really all it takes to build one.

Interesting...
Stay away from those Harbor Freight drill presses!! I have one and it is so under powered you can stall it in soft wood. POS
 

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I don't have a drill press, but I could probably come up with $70 and a way to get to Harbor Freight if that's really all it takes to build one.

Interesting...
Yep literally a drill press or stop by any machine shop and ask them to drill you a few holes. The baffles come pre spotted,so you don't even need to find center. A $20 drill press vise will also help quite a lot in the job.

If you want to go a bit more and own a dremel tool, cutting some clips into the suppressor will help with gas flow (sound) but that's something w can get into down the road.
 
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