Touring or Sport mode

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Do you remember where these numbers come from?

I seems to recall that the power restriction in the lower gears in S-mode have been removed on gen2...
Someone dynoed the bike and that is what he posted. It might have been on ADV.
 
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ballisticexchris

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T is for -terrible. My bike feels lethargic in touring mode.
T is for traction. I'm finding out more and more that this beast handles the best off road when it has traction. Between touring mode and the traction control settings it amazes me how much you can get this beast to grab. Unfortunately in the deep sand, all those techniques go out the window.
 

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All kidding aside I think touring mode would be really appreciated in wet or muddy conditions. Neither of which do I have much experience with on this bike.

The little bit of mud riding I have done wasn’t pleasant on this bike and the front fenders lack of clearance became apparent very quickly.

Luckily I haven’t ever had to ride in the rain. The weather has always cooperated and I live in an arid desert.
 

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My understanding is that the difference between T and S on a Gen 2 is just the throttle map, not power. You just need to turn the twistgrip lots more in T. The tuner who remapped mine said that S was very aggressive at small throttle openings, which is why it’s so sensitive. He made my S mode linear so there’s a 1:1 relationship between twistgrip and butterfly valve opening. Yamaha gave the Gen 2 a really aggressive S map to make it feel really fast (!) so a 20% turn of the twistgrip gave much more than 20% opening of the butterflies.
 

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My understanding is that the difference between T and S on a Gen 2 is just the throttle map, not power. You just need to turn the twistgrip lots more in T. The tuner who remapped mine said that S was very aggressive at small throttle openings, which is why it’s so sensitive. He made my S mode linear so there’s a 1:1 relationship between twistgrip and butterfly valve opening. Yamaha gave the Gen 2 a really aggressive S map to make it feel really fast (!) so a 20% turn of the twistgrip gave much more than 20% opening of the butterflies.
The butterflies are opened by wire, the flashed does not change that relationship. On the axis of the TB there is a sensor(2 really), from there, is modified the opening time of the injectors (in milliseconds), for each throttle position and tr / m of the engine. (The end result is “like” if the accelerator / butterfly ratio was changed) I have not seen them modify the moment of the spark.
 
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T Mode with stock plugs = lethargic. Feels like a 250cc
T Mode with NGK G-Power platinum plugs = adequate power for my riding style. This includes 2 up riding with luggage and keeping up with the KTM1190 and 1200GS single riders.
 

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I normally avoid the dumbed-down T-mode but I did find if useful on dirt the other day as it makes the throttle less sensitive to small inputs, which is welcome on loose surfaces. This isn't the stock T-mode though, it's been altered by my ECU flash to use the 6th gear map in every gear.
 
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Only time I use T mode in on those long distance 4 lane travels. Put her in T and set the cruise and take a nap, lol!
 

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Only time I use T mode in on those long distance 4 lane travels. Put her in T and set the cruise and take a nap, lol!
Something to bare in mind. In the UK alot of our best roads can be a single track. With lots of bends and undulations also its very hilly aswell. You just dont need to ride in Sport mode. So although you are on road the conditions dictate the ride. Oh we have roundabouts aswell lol.
 

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Gen2 ES, stock ECU. I've done maybe 20 miles in T mode and the other 15k in S. I get 54+ mpg consistently, solo or two up. T mode feels like the throttle cable is made of knicker elastic - it's so slow to respond.
It did feel snatchy to start with, but not any more. Maybe I've gotten used to it, or maybe the flattened seat and bar risers mean I'm not leaning on the bars so much and have more control over my input.
As regards engine braking - I came from big v twins so I love it. It saves using the actual brakes and helps with maintaining the balance of the bike through twisties.
 
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Something to bare in mind. In the UK alot of our best roads can be a single track. With lots of bends and undulations also its very hilly aswell. You just dont need to ride in Sport mode. So although you are on road the conditions dictate the ride. Oh we have roundabouts aswell lol.
Sounds like fun! Here in the States you can go mile after mile of nothing but road on the 4 lanes. Boring as hell!
 

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...You just dont need to ride in Sport mode....Oh we have roundabouts aswell lol.
I keep it in "S", even when I'm just puttering around town. I like how the bike acts/responds. Recently the round-a-bouts have been multiplying around here. A whole lot of people do NOT know how to react to them.
 

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I keep it in "S", even when I'm just puttering around town. I like how the bike acts/responds. Recently the round-a-bouts have been multiplying around here. A whole lot of people do NOT know how to react to them.
A roundabout is where I got hit on my last bike. Ended up totaled due to a busted turn stop, frame damage. How I ended up on an S10.


Having said that, I stay in S even in the roundabout I traverse daily.
 

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They sure seem to be getting carried away installing roundabouts these days, some freeway exits make you go through 3-4 roundabouts in order to get where your wanting to go, those situations make a GPS an extremely important tool when your in unfamiliar territory.
 
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