The Safety Weave To Be Seen

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You guys just sit down in your easy chairs and turn on TVLand and I'll get you a nice cup of pudding from the fridge.







Seems like we're a little off topic here. What were we talking about?
 

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Let’s refocus. The safety weave, I often do this approaching intersections or side roads. I learned there is a name for this action called the SMIDSY maneuver. It’s from the and means Sorry Mate I Didn’t See You. When I do this I make sure to flip my lights to high beam and actually weave enough that the headlight points directly at the stopped driver. But as Eric said earlier, we are still responsible for putting our bikes in motion and the consequences of our actions is our responsibility. Sure, another driver might not see us, but we need to be constantly vigilant of our surroundings and ready to take immediate and decisive evasive actions as required to prevent or mitigate the damages from contact. The scariest incident I have had in a long time was this past spring when a drunk driver in oncoming traffic decided to pass a line of cars. Unfortunately a cager was immediately ahead of me and he immediately made a right hand turn and into the roadside ditch. I grabbed a handful of front and rear brakes to the point of lock up. This provided just enough space for me to turn sharply to the right and pass behind the car driving in the ditch and I was on the lane runoff when I saw the left front fender pass about a foot from my leg. It scared the crap out of me. I stopped and checked on the cager who had a broken out windshield from the flexing of his car. He was shook up but ok. Then I remounted and reversed course only to find the car with the drunk had tried to pass another line of cars and hit a Jeep Grand Cherokee head on with a mother and two kids in car seats. They were all ok but Jeeps, I highly recommend for crash protection. Airbags, side curtains and crush zones saved this mother from serious injury. Her front bumper was pushed up to the “A” pillar. The transmission and engine went under the passenger compartment. I was amazed there were no injuries. The drunk told FHP she “just did a stupid.” Ride like you have a target on you. If you lose focus and your mind starts to drift, take a break...


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so this old thread after re reading has some good info. the safety weave is a viable tool one can use in surviving on the mean streets. I after 6 plus years riding my tenere still use it , it to me works best to get the attention of following drivers as the sudden motion should catch their eye. nothing is fool proof , lots of foolish drivers out there . so good luck . when one chooses to ride a motorcycle he or she excepts the risk that goes with it. so my advice is to develop strategies of survival . I use the weave , I wear bright attention getting safety gear (I like black, looks cool , so I wear it under my bright yellow aerostitch darien jacket ) have mounted extra led lights on front of bike to help the blind see me , try not to ride tired (fatigue is your enemy ) never assume you have the right of way (you may be right but you may be dead ) adjust your speed to conditions ,traffic or weather . I believe the new safety tech that cars are getting will make bad drivers even worse as they will feel that the car tech will take care of them (self driving cars ) so they will pay even less attention to what is going on around them . I think that part of the fun of riding a motorcycle is the sense of "I did this " it is the adventure , the freedom of choice , when freedom of choice seems to be fading away. hang in there, keep eyes up , have a great day, all is well. do all you can that's all you can do...….
 

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A weave, if observed by a police officer in Ontario, will result in a charge of 'Racing'. As will lifting your butt off the seat, spinning the rear wheel, lifting either wheel, or fishtailing.
A Racing charge is a serious offence, your licence is suspended and vehicle impounded.
 

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A weave, if observed by a police officer in Ontario, will result in a charge of 'Racing'. As will lifting your butt off the seat, spinning the rear wheel, lifting either wheel, or fishtailing.
A Racing charge is a serious offense, your license is suspended and vehicle impounded.
It depends on the a) ignorance, or lack, of the officer, b) circumstances of the situation, c) attitudes of all parties involved & d) the municipality. Ontario is struggling to combat stunters, but individual LEOs need to apply some common sense too.

This can occur in the US in some areas, but is somewhat less likely. Unless the judge has a hard on against motorcyclists or the individual cited has a prior history of incidents, I can see this getting tossed out in court, eventually.

I've been pulled over for using the flash to pass feature on my car when a woman pacing a slow truck for 10 miles, blocking the left lane, refused to pull over, (going 50mph in a 65 mph interstate zone). She called 911 and a pair of motor cops were waiting for me miles up the road. One never left the bike, Junior ranted and gave me a 20 minute lecture, but no ticket. When he was done, I politely suggested that he read his owner's manual on the "flash to pass" feature on his car. Then the DMV driver's handbook. Washington State has issues with stupid legislators, like most other states. In Oregon it used to be, and may still be, illegal to run thru a yellow light. A law was passed that stated that you were supposed to stop for yellow lights and it was a cite-able offense to run thru one. Figure that out!
 

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1) Get used to inexperienced officers; today's political climate is causing the experienced ones to retire. Many departments are requiring college degrees for advancement; regardless of experience. 2) In Texas, as long as you have entered the intersection BEFORE it turn red....no violation. Here, for "racing" to be applicable, there has to be two "participants". Wheelies, front or back, CAN be construed as reckless driving; arrestable. 3) I am not a fan of the weave. It would just be one more thing I would have to have my little pea brain think about. Instead, I devote 100% of my attention to the cars that are a threat. I react to THEIR movement, and take for granted that they do not see me; I'm responsible for my safety. #2 is fact, the other two are just my opinion.
 

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good to see this thread fired up.... does not have to be an aggressive weave , almost any motion thats not straight line should suffice....
 

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I do the weave, and would never flash my lights.
definitely a fan of a light weave, or more often i'll just change my lane position- gives me the added benefit of moving further from the potential danger within my lane.

I don't flash lights, but i will turn the high beam on. Flashing lights could be misconstrued as a "go ahead!" which... not what I'm trying to convey.
 
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