Rate Your Hard Cases Here

Madhatter

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I like my toura tech boxes , after 5 plus years still doing well ..... boxes or bags are what ever fits your budget ,taste , or how you think you will use them … no wrong answer here , just different ideas on what works ….. after long deliberation (had to save a lot of money as they are expensive ) I chose tt.... I can change bikes brands etc and all I need is the tt rack for that bike and I can use the tt boxes. so that being said I do not need to consider new boxes (except for theft or damage ) for anytime in the for seeable future..... pick what you like and you will be happy.
 
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ballisticexchris

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I really like my Mosko Moto hard bags!! Best of all they compress when not being used. I don't know of any other hard bag that can do that. Thought about some of the other offerings but nothing is as durable as these in a tip over.


  1. Ease of use: Very modular and simple access
  2. Durabiity/strength: Super duper durable. Can take multiple tip overs and falls with zero damage.
  3. Value: Pretty good bang for the buck
  4. Features: Can add/remove different additional bags to it. I have each front bag setup with a MSR dromedary bag and quick access valve for water to wash/brush teeth/drink
  5. Price: About half the cost of comparable hard cases
  6. Other: Easy on and off the bike, can be used as a seat/backrest
1. Left on all the time? Mine are left on most of the time.
2. Security level? Very secure. When locked they are almost impossible to access without destroying the cases.
3. Open lid to the side or to the front/rear? Mine open from the top and are 100% waterproof. Removable inner bag. With additional bags you can configure them to open to the side/front/rear. Whatever you choose.
4. Easy to remove? With lock strap about 30 seconds both sides.
5. Low profile support rack? Yes Touratech and Mosco Moto sliding mounts
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After bags are removed:
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Clawdog60

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I really like my Mosko Moto hard bags!! Best of all they compress when not being used. I don't know of any other hard bag that can do that. Thought about some of the other offerings but nothing is as durable as these in a tip over.


  1. Ease of use: Very modular and simple access
  2. Durabiity/strength: Super duper durable. Can take multiple tip overs and falls with zero damage.
  3. Value: Pretty good bang for the buck
  4. Features: Can add/remove different additional bags to it. I have each front bag setup with a MSR dromedary bag and quick access valve for water to wash/brush teeth/drink
  5. Price: About half the cost of comparable hard cases
  6. Other: Easy on and off the bike, can be used as a seat/backrest
1. Left on all the time? Mine are left on most of the time.
2. Security level? Very secure. When locked they are almost impossible to access without destroying the cases.
3. Open lid to the side or to the front/rear? Mine open from the top and are 100% waterproof. Removable inner bag. With additional bags you can configure them to open to the side/front/rear. Whatever you choose.
4. Easy to remove? With lock strap about 30 seconds both sides.
5. Low profile support rack? Yes Touratech and Mosco Moto sliding mounts
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After bags are removed:
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Looks like you can pack everything but the kitchen sink
 
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ballisticexchris

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Looks like you can pack everything but the kitchen sink
Yes you can. The beauty of these are they compress down when not loaded. I also notice the bike is very balanced with them mounted. For the heck of it I loaded my bike down as if I would live off of it. I did a test campout and as you see it here I'm fully self contained for almost one full week with the exception of water (three days worth of water on board).

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I can go to my local motorcycle dealer 100 miles away and use my bike for picking up parts!!
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Madhatter

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the advantage of soft bags are , you can stuff the crap out of them, not as likely to cause that broken leg when you crash , and are probably lighter by a few pounds than metal bags..... the one negative might be they move around more , might be an issue for some..... no place to display stickers.....
 

STenitus

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Givi Trekkers, came with. Fairly light and easy on the eyes but I hope they don't contact anything buy my hands.
 

twinrider

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My bike came with the OEM side cases.

Pluses:
1) Narrow width great for lane-splitting
2) top loading
3) Easy to install and remove

Minuses:
1) They won't open with my 45 and 42 liter Givi top cases installed. This was my main objection to them as I use a top case whenever I tour. Yamaha should've made the lids lift off instead of having a hinge.
2) The aluminum panels are very easily scratched and dinged. I'd much prefer a durable plastic finish like Givi's cases.


Verdict:
I sold them due to the top case issue while they were still looking mint, and replaced them with Givi side racks as I already have E21 and B34N cases.
 

cycledelic relic

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Ive been running the Givi quick release racks with E22 cases on both my 13 & 14 Teneres...& use a E58 Maxia top case on my custom built rear rack with storage space underneath for a 1120 Pelican case
(That custom rack is shown in anuther thread....I'll post it shortly)


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While Im mostly a pavement pounder.... either the skinny county kind or larger farm to mkt & state hwys... I do from time to time run some gravel/rock county roads...some of which can be pretty challenging in places...rutted..washboard..rocky ledges.
These Givi cases have been fine during all this time....& if...by chance..I did dump the bike....the cases are easily replaced for reasonable $ compared to some fancy types. (which will still get damaged)


Side note:
I wanted my r/h rack to be as equally spaced from the bike as the l/h rack so I installed a couple of washers under the upper mount blocks. The racks are now almost equally spaced. Any more washers would require longer stainless bolts & mite mess with the rear crossbrace spacing.

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cycledelic relic

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My bike came with the OEM side cases.

Pluses:
1) Narrow width great for lane-splitting
2) top loading
3) Easy to install and remove

Minuses:
1) They won't open with my 45 and 42 liter Givi top cases installed. This was my main objection to them as I use a top case whenever I tour. Yamaha should've made the lids lift off instead of having a hinge.
2) The aluminum panels are very easily scratched and dinged. I'd much prefer a durable plastic finish like Givi's cases.


Verdict:
I sold them due to the top case issue while they were still looking mint, and replaced them with Givi side racks as I already have E21 and B34N cases.
I really like that color combo on your Ten...& the details like the black coated exhaust system & blue anodised rims/forks
Looking thru web posts...it appears that your bike came from Yamaha with the blue anodised wheels & forks...& the blue seat accents
Wish we got that combo in the US

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Clawdog60

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Yes you can. The beauty of these are they compress down when not loaded. I also notice the bike is very balanced with them mounted. For the heck of it I loaded my bike down as if I would live off of it. I did a test campout and as you see it here I'm fully self contained for almost one full week with the exception of water (three days worth of water on board).

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I can go to my local motorcycle dealer 100 miles away and use my bike for picking up parts!!
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I meant that in a good light
 

Don T

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I chose Holan Nomada for my bike.

Main reason was the narrow profile (same as with the OEM cases even though the Holan are slightly bigger), as I exercise lane splitting every chance I get.

Good quality and very reasonable price was another factor.

I've been using them on several trips and are happy with my choice.

A couple of years ago I got hit by a oncoming car while on a trip (it had been hit by a lorry and went into a spin) One of the panniers took a direct hit. It got very damaged and had to be replaced. The rack withstood the impact and didn't even get bend, so very sturdy!

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twinrider

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Givi B36N cases (similar to Trekker 33s and Pelican 36s)





These hold 36 liters each, but have a narrow profile.

Pluses:
1) Narrow profile at 20cm wide, so great for lane-splitting.
2) Handle on top, can be carried with one hand
3) Side loading, so can be opened with a duffel bag on the passenger seat.
4) Not model specific so can be swapped among bikes (currently on my 3rd bike since buying them)
5) Can be used as a top case on Monokey or Monolock racks.

Minuses:
1) Side loading, not as convenient as top loaders for every day use, but using an liner bag helps mitigate the inconvenience.
2) Narrow profile, so if you want to take everything but the kitchen sink you won't like these.
 

bnschroder

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I swear by my Pelican/Caribou cases.
Pros
- Cheap
- Indestructible
- If for some reason they get destroyed and you are still alive, they have a lifelong warranty
- Definitely waterproof
- Carry easily into a motel like normal suicases
- Once you get used to side loading it's actually pretty good - you see much better what's in them, the straps keep your shit inside, and the open lids provide staging space for packing and unpacking. And it doesn't matter what sits on top (giant dry bag for example or oversized trunk)
- Go with the Tenere - function over form (wasn't there a song "if you want to be happy for the rest of your life, better make an ugly woman your wife"?)
- with the Caribou mount for Hepco Bcker racks they eject in a crash without causing additional damage
- available in many colors (I debated but ultimately went with black)
- pretty narrow, as in narrower than handlebars
- with Hepco Becker Lock-it racks, they are almost symetrical (only .5" difference between left and right side

Cons
- Stickers don't stick well: The Pelican's have a rough surface and lots of ridges, Storm's are smoother I believe
- No stock attachment points to strap something on top
- Backside has a ridge that makes it harder to attach a gas can
- You could call them ugly, but I like them
- Not very heavy, but definitely not lighter than aluminum
- If you want to have more than 35 liters per side, I think the 40L Storm cases look monstrous (but it also gets heavy carrying to much shit)
 
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ballisticexchris

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I'm noticing a few comments on "stickers" going on the hard bags. What kind of stickers? Reason I ask is my national park/forestry stickers go on my fork tube. I have never seen them mounted on the panniers.
 

Scoti49

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I was going to fit a pair of used Triumph 1050 Hepco Beker cases to my Super Tenere , but it didn't take long to realise the exhaust on the 1050 is on the RH side . Oh well sell on eBay maybe ?

These cases were a nice shape , made to fit and balance the old bike .
I don't like the idea of spending Au $1500 on square boxes ,that look terrible along with the stories of hinges and locking problems ,that don't impress me much ..
At the moment I have some good size, soft throw over bags on Super Ten at the moment ,with Givi Trekker frames
 

Super08

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I went with a set of Givi Outbacks and the matching toolbox. My factory panniers are still NIB stored in the attic of my garage for the day I sell or trade in the bike.

!. Ease of use. Very good-I have all my bags and top cases keyed alike so I only have to carry one key and the ignition key. I have used them for 2 seasons now and no issues with anything getting into the locks. The bags attach and detach faster than anything out there. I can open the lids on both side even when using the large topcase. (I have both the 38 litre and 50 litre topcases)
2. Strength. Very Good-Mostly aluminum construction with plastic corners. Bags are riveted together. I had an incident this summer on a 10 day trip where the bike was blown off the side stand on asphalt, It was a major impact as the bike was loaded heavy. The RH large 48 litre bag took the brunt of the impact. It crushed the bag around the frame somewhat and bent the frame a bit. The bag was still useable for the rest of the trip but in no way waterproof. When I got home I removed the rack and straightened it out with a 10 pound sledge hammer on some wood blocks. It took a fair bit of force. I pounded the back side of the bag back out and resealed it. I chose to replace it due to it being on a new bike and the outside was scuffed up from the asphalt but it was useable.
3. Value. Good-I would place them fairly high, you get quite a bit for your money.
4. Features. Very Good-The attachment method is really slick, I also like that I have mine all keyed alike. There are lots of accessories that you can buy for them. The lids come completely off if you wish. The lids have several anchor points for tying gear down to.
5. Price. Average-They are not cheap but not as expensive as many of the others I looked at.
6. Other. They really look good on the bike. I bought a 37 litre bag for the muffler side and both a 37 and 48 litre bag for the right side as well as both 38 and 50 litre topcases. This gives me the ultimate in flexibility with my setup. My RH 48 litre bag was not water proof. I am not sure where the leak was but I went all around the seams with Black RTV silicone on the inside and flipped the rubber lid seal over. It solved the problem so no biggie. I have read of others that have run into the same issue. Both of my 37 litre bags were good but while I was doing the bigger bag I figured I would do the smaller ones to for added insurance. I had to do some modifications to the mount for the toolbox. It was not approved for mounting on the S10 but I found a way to move the mount up 1" so it would safely work on the bike mounted behind the RH bag. The bags weigh more than the stock one, but are also much stronger. I am very happy with them.IMG_4693.JPGP1010160.JPGIMG_5112.JPGP1010026 (2).JPG
 
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ballisticexchris

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Super08, Those are some really really nice Panniers!! I like that setup!!
 

Fastring

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Happy Trails Tetons smaller clif cut size.

Prior panniers on other motos: two sets of Jesses, givi trekker and a set of givi trekker outbacks. Liked narrow profile of jesse, didnt like latches. Liked trekker outback one latch to secure, didnt like that givi forces a key as u have to keylock to secure. Didnt like givi not waterproof.

Use: I commute daily and carry my laptop and clothes in panniers. Panniers get lots of use.

1. Ease of use: 8
I like top key, one key lock, to secure. Dont like 2 latches to secure but like I can secure without locking.

2. Durabiity/strength: 10
Stout, no plastic, holding upwell.

3. Value: 10
Crazy inexpensive for what you get.

4. Features: 8
I like cliff cut, one key and twist latches oh and top hooks. Miss the cap inside storage of jesses.

5. Price: 10
Crazy inexpensive.

5. Other: 10
USA made, nice to deal with.
 
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