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Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« on: February 21, 2011, 06:30:12 pm »
I found a 2010 service manual of the XT1200Z (616 pages, english).

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2011, 09:38:42 pm »
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2011, 10:17:42 pm »
That's the owners manual. Good try though. ;)
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 03:12:33 pm »
I bought my service manual at the following link. They will mail it to you on CD and it includes an owners manual and parts list. It is, however, for the European model, so there will likely be a few subtle differences. I'd post it here for you, but the file is too big. It is only about $20 total, including shipping after the conversion from pounds.

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 01:17:57 am »
it is going to be neat to see the differences between the Euro spec bike and USA one for emissions sake. I also wonder how many ponies they are going to shave off with this slaughter of the bike.
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2011, 08:16:55 am »
it is going to be neat to see the differences between the Euro spec bike and USA one for emissions sake. I also wonder how many ponies they are going to shave off with this slaughter of the bike.

I'm guessing at least 5% less ponies.....    :(
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2011, 11:33:27 am »
I don't recall ever reading that any of our models, such as ST1300, FJR were down on power from the Euro models. Matter of fact, I have read the opposite on some models, due to restrictions in some Euro countries. Have you seen dyno comparisions of USA vs Euro mdoels of anything that show ours are down on power? BTW, this would have to be done on the same dyno to be a valid comparison.
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2011, 12:03:38 pm »
I don't recall ever reading that any of our models, such as ST1300, FJR were down on power from the Euro models. Matter of fact, I have read the opposite on some models, due to restrictions in some Euro countries. Have you seen dyno comparisions of USA vs Euro mdoels of anything that show ours are down on power? BTW, this would have to be done on the same dyno to be a valid comparison.

Yes, the days of new model US bikes being significantly down on power from Euro bikes are essentially past.

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2011, 01:07:16 pm »
Yes, the days of new model US bikes being significantly down on power from Euro bikes are essentially past.

- Mark

That's good to know.  I was ASSuming otherwise. 

Thanks Fred and Mark for the GOOD info! 

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2011, 01:53:57 pm »
it is going to be neat to see the differences between the Euro spec bike and USA one for emissions sake. I also wonder how many ponies they are going to shave off with this slaughter of the bike.

It is my understanding that they actually have tighter restrictions than we do. It wasn't always that way, but I think it is today. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I know that my other two "world bikes" each have cats and such from being offered "over there" first, which made it easy for them to come "over here" with a minimum of changes. perhaps Asian, African and South American models are less restrictive, but I wouldn't think that Europe would be part of that list.
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2011, 05:43:38 pm »
My impression is that US and European emission requirements are about on par. I would not expect significant differences. California may be an exception.

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #11 on: April 08, 2011, 07:00:24 pm »
My impression is that US and European emission requirements are about on par. I would not expect significant differences. California may be an exception.

Best response so far.  The regs are different, more stringent in some areas, less in others, but GENERALLY the last five years or so have seen Euro and US bikes in roughly similar tune with about the same power.

CA bikes used to be down on power pretty regularly due to milder cams, but these days it seems most of the CA bikes differ only in having additional evap emissions hardware.  I don't think it is very common to see a 49-state and a CA bike have different cams these days.

Having said all this, anything is possible so we won't  know anything with absolute certainty until the US bikes get tested.  But I'm expecting power roughly on par with the Euro bikes and I will be disappointed if they're below par as I think the bike, while having plenty of power for any reasonable use, is already slightly down on the air-cooled GS which seems like a small takeaway to me.

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2011, 08:30:06 pm »
My impression is that US and European emission requirements are about on par. I would not expect significant differences. California may be an exception.

I have heard that form a couple of folks who work for Honda.  The differences amount to some ECU map tweaking IIRC. This has got to be a good thing for the manufacturers, having several versions of the same model has to be a PITA form a parts inventory perspective. Plus it should allow for greter variety than we now have.
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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2011, 05:15:46 am »
My impressions are just that, impressions. The reason I think this is that Sweden allows private importation of motor vehicles from the US. The only criteria is that the vehicles have been earlier registered in the US. From the Swedish authorities point of view US EPA emission requirements are accepted. The prior registration in the US acts as evidence that the vehicle has been type approved according to EPa read. Generally the only thing that has to be done in Sweden is that the privately imported vehicle is tested for noise emissions. Even there I don't believe the differences are so great. I think EPA applies 80dBA noise limit at a certain rpm and the compliance is usually stamped on the silencer of US bikes. In Sweden the limit is also 80dBA, but test conditions are different I suspect. When I took my DL650 back with me from Texas, I had to get it noise tested. A guy rode the bike past another guy standing with a microphone at 50km/h and just before he got to the guy with the mike, he gave it full gas. This was repeated in 2nd and 3rd gear.

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Re: Service manual XT1200Z (2010)
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2011, 01:32:19 pm »
You can download the service manual in enlish on the dutch (.NL) supertenereforum.
It is named  #3 Handleiding.
Very usefull for all mechanical questions.
http://www.supertenereforum.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=208
or
http://www.konepool.demon.nl/de_xt1200z_pagina.htm
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