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Offline Defekticon

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2016, 11:07:58 am »
The trouble with second, or even more bikes, is that you need to weigh up how/when you will use them carefully, if the expenditure is to be justified. Currently I run four, but this does impinge on the time I have to enjoy my SLK250, & you need to factor in the time/cost of keeping them up to scratch mechanically, clean & tidy.

In the OPs case, I would have thought something a little modern retro would be in order. The XSR900 sounds good, or an R9T, or 1200 bonneville. I have had Ducatis, but found them rather too service hungry & costly. I was running an immaculate PC800, but this felt just too lame & scooter like after more modern bikes & tended to languish at the back of the garage. I swopped it for an F650GS (800 twin), which is a light, quick handling little bike, great in traffic, but does rather cut across the S10s normal duties. My neighbour runs three 1960s classics - 2 Bonnevilles & an RGS replica. Nice bikes but he spends huge money fettling & loves to show them off, but never seems to ride them anywhere, ever. They go to the odd Show .......... in a van. Each to their own I guess.

Anyway, I sure you will enjoy the search whatever you choose, nothing better at this time of year ......................  KEN

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S10
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Just down to the S10 now and looking for something else. Was talking to the wife about it, as she was looking at possibly getting her own bike - CB500x, we've been looking at them for several months. We are also thinking instead of buying the cb500x, buying something more touring oriented that handles two up duties with more ease than the S10. I'm adding the FJR and Concours to the list of potential bikes if we go that route.
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Offline Chuck B

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2016, 01:12:07 pm »
I've owned many FJ's/FJR's over the years and purchased the first year C10. My better half wouldn't consider any of them a 'good' 2 up bike. Particularly the C10. She much prefers the S10 for 2up...thats the main reason we purchased it. Both the FJR and C10 were just too cramped for her (seat to peg distance). On my S10 I added the FJR passenger peg extensions. There's only been three other bikes she rates as more comfortable that we've owned; HD Road King, K1200LT, ST1300. We've been on a GW a number of times and of course she loved it...I hated it.

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2016, 04:10:03 pm »
I've owned many FJ's/FJR's over the years and purchased the first year C10. My better half wouldn't consider any of them a 'good' 2 up bike. Particularly the C10. She much prefers the S10 for 2up...thats the main reason we purchased it. Both the FJR and C10 were just too cramped for her (seat to peg distance). On my S10 I added the FJR passenger peg extensions. There's only been three other bikes she rates as more comfortable that we've owned; HD Road King, K1200LT, ST1300. We've been on a GW a number of times and of course she loved it...I hated it.

I'm also very cautiously($$$$$$$$) researching the k1600GT. I'm surprised the FJR and C14 are substandard pillion touring machines. The S10 gets the job done for two up, but I find it difficult to believe that the suspension, brakes and engine of the S10 do a better job at handling the weight of pillion, luggage and rider than an FJR. My wife is 150, I'm 235, the S10 feels a bit stressed at our combined weight, but I loved the performance of it when we were doing some of the fire roads at the Romney Camp and ride this year.
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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2016, 04:45:08 pm »
If you are considering the K1600GT, you should check out the R1200RT. I just bought a 2016 R1200RT and love it. I replaced my ST1300, still keeping the Tenere for now. BMW made some major improvements to the RT in 2014 - might be worth looking.
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Offline Chuck B

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2016, 04:48:34 pm »
If you are considering the K1600GT, you should check out the R1200RT. I just bought a 2016 R1200RT and love it. I replaced my ST1300, still keeping the Tenere for now. BMW made some major improvements to the RT in 2014 - might be worth looking.

I think the RT is a better two up sporty bike as well... The K16 was much like my K12LT...pretty boring behind the handlebars. Can't compare engines but certainly comfortable...just boring.

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2016, 06:02:17 am »
BMW K1600s - lots to like, but be very, very cautious. My 2012 GT was a disaster area - front suspension & gearbox failure, then the eternal worry that piston ringlands might crack up. All this at under 5k miles. The post 2014s are better, but mine was off the road for 3 months, right over the summer 2014 season - a real lemon. I think us early customers were used as guinea pigs for the beta testing programme. Anyway, I'm sure you will have a scout around the Forum, www.k1600forum.com, which I still visit occasionally. Always remember - BMW - Buy More Warranty.

Hence I switched to an FJR AE/ES for long tours - may not be as plush, but it has proved ultra reliable. Takes the Givi Top Box with an SR357 rack. Latest models have got the 6-speed box or auto & better headlights that can peer around corners, whilst not being as complicated as the K16 affair.

Enjoy the search  ......................  KEN
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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2016, 08:04:35 am »
I'm also very cautiously($$$$$$$$) researching the k1600GT. I'm surprised the FJR and C14 are substandard pillion touring machines. The S10 gets the job done for two up, but I find it difficult to believe that the suspension, brakes and engine of the S10 do a better job at handling the weight of pillion, luggage and rider than an FJR. My wife is 150, I'm 235, the S10 feels a bit stressed at our combined weight, but I loved the performance of it when we were doing some of the fire roads at the Romney Camp and ride this year.

Flash your S10 and add Arrow headers, a slipon and a PCV. Then you won't feel it's lacking power anymore.  ::26::

Heck, even the flash would be a big improvement over stock...

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2016, 09:25:58 am »
Flash your S10 and add Arrow headers, a slipon and a PCV. Then you won't feel it's lacking power anymore.  ::26::

Heck, even the flash would be a big improvement over stock...

I'm flashed with an akropovic, looking a headers right now.
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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2016, 08:17:18 pm »
I'm flashed with an akropovic, looking a headers right now.

I have a set for sale in the flea market along with a PCV set up for the headers, and Akra and a flash. If you're interested I could sell the headers and PCV separate from the Akra that I have listed there. Trust me, you won't feel like the bike lacks power two-up.

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2017, 08:49:06 am »
Resuming search after the Holidays. Currently very very very seriously looking at a new KTM 500 EXC.

Seat height probably isn't particularly good for a 31 inch inseam. I wonder if I can one leg it... I also wonder if I could convince my wife to ride it :)
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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2017, 10:49:14 am »
Dude! You're all over the place! First, an around-town possibly 900cc naked, fun bike then you want the Flagship of Horrors 1600 6-cylinder from da FadderLand and now (a sensible choice) the KTM 500 EXC. I love it! Winter does strange things to some riders.

The 500 is an awesome machine with very usable power but it's an $11,000 toy that will threaten your license from Day 1 and does not work well for round the town-type activities. Don't expect both feet down at the same time with that inseam and if you lower the suspension, watch yer toes if you actually ride it offroad. Another point about the power, while I find it a joy, an inexperienced rider (wifey) can become very quickly overwhelmed and struggle with throttle control. No ABS on a bike with strong brakes can be difficult for noobs, too. This bike is ready to race with lights on, blinkers and horn.

Reading your 1st post, I was going to suggest the 900 XSR or Yamaha's V-Twin 950 SCR  but it appears you need a bigger garage for a dedicated dirtbike, two-up pavement hauler, a naked-hooligan and the one bike that can do it all... a 1200 Tenere. Good luck in your search.

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Offline bmwguy

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2017, 10:57:18 am »

I'm in a similar situation.  Winter itch and just thinking about getting another bike.  I currently have 5 bikes in the garage.  5 bikes would be my limit, so come spring time, I will be selling the 250 Ninja as it is taking up room in my garage, especially since that was the initial intention is to flip the bike( I got the bike not running and like 100 dollars).

I do not have a S10 yet, but my Vstrom 650 is doing everything that the S10 would be doing at the moment.  Keep in mind I do not have to carry a passenger for any extended period of time.

I just could not justify getting a S10 since the wee is doing a fine job.  I probably will get the S10 a few years from now once the wee racks up more miles and I'm no longer able to ride the Ducati 998.

So what bike am I thinking of getting once I sell the 250 Ninja in the spring?  Likely modern retro, a Kawasaki ZRX 1200 R, eddie lawson replica type.
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2008 Suzuki V-Strom DL650
2003 Kawasaki Ninja 250R
2002 Ducati 998 Superbike
2001 BMW R1200C Phoenix
1982 BMW R100RT

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1985 Yamaha FZ-750
1984 Kawasaki GPZ-750

Offline ace50

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2017, 11:16:15 am »
So what bike am I thinking of getting once I sell the 250 Ninja in the spring?  Likely modern retro, a Kawasaki ZRX 1200 R, eddie lawson replica type.
I really liked my ZRX, but after getting the S10, the ZRX just seemed REALLY small, so I sold it.
Ended up with a '96 Honda Magna just play with and am making a custom exhaust for it right now.
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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2017, 12:07:08 pm »
Dude! You're all over the place! First, an around-town possibly 900cc naked, fun bike then you want the Flagship of Horrors 1600 6-cylinder from da FadderLand and now (a sensible choice) the KTM 500 EXC. I love it! Winter does strange things to some riders.

The 500 is an awesome machine with very usable power but it's an $11,000 toy that will threaten your license from Day 1 and does not work well for round the town-type activities. Don't expect both feet down at the same time with that inseam and if you lower the suspension, watch yer toes if you actually ride it offroad. Another point about the power, while I find it a joy, an inexperienced rider (wifey) can become very quickly overwhelmed and struggle with throttle control. No ABS on a bike with strong brakes can be difficult for noobs, too. This bike is ready to race with lights on, blinkers and horn.

Reading your 1st post, I was going to suggest the 900 XSR or Yamaha's V-Twin 950 SCR  but it appears you need a bigger garage for a dedicated dirtbike, two-up pavement hauler, a naked-hooligan and the one bike that can do it all... a 1200 Tenere. Good luck in your search.

Yeah I've definitely got the winter itch bad. So much so I've even thought about a fly and ride to a dealer near my sisters house in FL just so I can ride it home on the TET-S.

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Offline Sierra1

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Re: Looking for another bike
« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2017, 02:03:45 pm »
I consider my self and experienced, and somewhat aggressive rider. I weigh 320lbs and my wife is 160lbs.  We are over the GVWR, and the Tenere is plenty quick enough.  In "T" mode, it is sluggish and soft.  But in "S" mode, on a twisty road, my kids on an R6 and the FJR, have to work to keep up.  I would have suggested a Tenere to somebody as a "different" kind of bike that does everything well, but you already have one.  With the ability to hop curbs, split lanes, and cross medians, it is my choice for everywhere riding.  But as previously suggested, the VMax is a cool bike for short trips.  Don't think the passenger will agree though.
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Out to Pasture: '77 XS 360; '81 SECA 550; '00 KZ 1000P; '04 BMW 1150 RT-P; '11 ST1300PA; '11 KLR

 

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