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2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« on: September 07, 2011, 10:11:01 am »
Got the yamalube SAE80W90 drive shaft gear oil from dealer today. they were not sure if this is the correct oil for the shaft drive. Can you guys confirm that this is correct. it does not have any of the other numbers printed on it as what the user manual  states. I see on the yamaha website there is also friction modified shaft drive gear oil 80W90 I a not sure which one to use?
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2011, 10:27:38 am »
My dealer didn't have the specified straight 80 weight oil so I used what I had already: 

http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Other_Products/Mobil_1_Fully_Synthetic_Gear_Lube_75W-90LS.aspx

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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2011, 10:39:30 am »
Got the yamalube SAE80W90 drive shaft gear oil from dealer today. they were not sure if this is the correct oil for the shaft drive. Can you guys confirm that this is correct. it does not have any of the other numbers printed on it as what the user manual  states. I see on the yamaha website there is also friction modified shaft drive gear oil 80W90 I a not sure which one to use?

Either one is probably fine. I'm sure the Friction Modified stuff is more expensive. How deep are your pockets.  :D :D
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2011, 10:46:15 am »
All my dealer had on the shelf at the time was the friction modified formula. It states on the bottle it can be used in regular final drive applications.
I don't remember the exact cost but it was no more than a quart of yamalube dino oil.
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2011, 12:55:08 pm »
Any brand gl4 or gl5 80/90w oil is fine. I happened to pick up the bel-ray stuff, been using the same in the FJR for 45,000 miles.
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2011, 06:55:13 pm »
Thanks for the info. will get the yamalube friction modified shaft drive lube
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2011, 07:00:58 pm »
I just changed the final drive with Mobil 1 Synthetic Gear Lube LS 75W-90. Did not trust the Yamaha 80w90. Why I did not trust the Yamaha stuff, not sure maybe it was the lack of documentation. The Mobil 1 stuff is documented, tested, on various websites around the web, and used in very harsh heavy duty applications such as work pickups, and high performeance cars. I'm not a mobil employee. If I could access it I would be using a Amsoil products.   :)    also the mobil 1 stuff as friction modifiers
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2011, 10:15:52 pm »
Just purchased some Yamalube Shaft Drive Oil Exclusive from my dealer. The bottle indicates "exclusively for FJR1300 and VMAX 1700" and for "most severe conditions", but I am worried now that it may not be the correct weight as the dealer could not verify. Am I reading too much into this? Thanks for the help...
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2011, 12:44:03 am »
Just purchased some Yamalube Shaft Drive Oil Exclusive from my dealer. The bottle indicates "exclusively for FJR1300 and VMAX 1700" and for "most severe conditions", but I am worried now that it may not be the correct weight as the dealer could not verify. Am I reading too much into this? Thanks for the help...

This sounds like the expensive synthetic lube that is supposedly superior to the regular GL5 stuff Yamaha sells.  I recall some arguing on the FJR forums whether this more expensive stuff was required or just recommended.  My take is that either would work fine in the FJR and since the S10 specs basically the same gear oil, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work fine in the S10.

And doesn't it say GL5 and the weight on the bottle?  If it's GL4/GL5 and close to the spec'ed weight (80W-90) it is acceptable to Yamaha.  As to what is "optimal" or "cost effective", I'll let others carry on about this.

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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2011, 12:47:47 am »
Just purchased some Yamalube Shaft Drive Oil Exclusive from my dealer. The bottle indicates "exclusively for FJR1300 and VMAX 1700" and for "most severe conditions", but I am worried now that it may not be the correct weight as the dealer could not verify. Am I reading too much into this? Thanks for the help...

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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2011, 05:50:46 am »
throw some Mobil1 in there and call it good... ::021::
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2011, 06:09:59 am »
throw some Mobil1 in there and call it good... ::021::

That is what most of us would do but that is not what they are concerned with. They want to know what Yamalube product is correct. I am going to ask the parts manager I buy from. He has been doing Yamaha parts for 35+ years.
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2011, 07:32:15 am »
Just purchased some Yamalube Shaft Drive Oil Exclusive from my dealer. The bottle indicates "exclusively for FJR1300 and VMAX 1700" and for "most severe conditions", but I am worried now that it may not be the correct weight as the dealer could not verify. Am I reading too much into this? Thanks for the help...
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 10:00:36 am »
That is what most of us would do but that is not what they are concerned with. They want to know what Yamalube product is correct. I am going to ask the parts manager I buy from. He has been doing Yamaha parts for 35+ years.

Agreed.  Why are so many saying here that Yamaha specifies 80w90?  My owner's manual clearly states straight 80 weight.  So far as I can see there is no such thing from Yamaha, or elsewhere. 

For me the relevance of the question is warranty protection.  Although any brand hypoid GL-4 or GL-5 will meet the warranty requirements, it is not clear you can change weights from what Yamaha specify, and they have made a hash of it by:

1.  Specifying a grade that is apparently unobtainable,
2.  Failing to label their own products properly with weight and api specifications.
3.  Marketing similar products on a model specific manner and then failing to specify clearly which we should use.

I am in complete agreement that in so far as lubricating the final drive pretty much any oil in the general weight range and correct api spec will work fine. 
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Re: 2 types of yamalube for final drive - which one do I use?
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2011, 10:42:58 am »
My dealer didn't have any of the Yamalube gear oil in stock, so I bought the Honda gear oil that's recommended for the GW, ST and their shaft drive cruisers.  That was good enough for me.

They did have Amsoil 75W-90 synthetic gear oil, so I bought a quart of that for future use when I go to synthetic.

BTW, I check the oil level in the engine,  final drive and visually look at the FD and rear wheel area frequently, just for peace of mind. 

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