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Offline smalls78

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #285 on: October 23, 2017, 12:07:00 pm »
Correct, the last plate on (1st?) is offset, so it does not line up with the others and sits in / on the step.

Seriously, thanks for the reply. I know this is an old thread.

Offline Dogdaze

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #286 on: October 23, 2017, 12:13:04 pm »
Seriously, thanks for the reply. I know this is an old thread.

Yes, but it's relevant to those that are doing it  ::008::
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Offline Eric R

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #287 on: February 18, 2018, 05:22:39 pm »
I'm in the same boat as smalls....from what I gather....all the other friction plates can go in basically any way in regards to the notch on the plate/dimple on the basket??  only friction plate 2 and 1 need to offset from the dimple ?? I'm just now doing this..I know I know...I'm slow...haha.  I'm not putting it back together till I know for sure. I don't know why I'm second guessing myself, but better to be safe than sorry!!
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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #288 on: April 22, 2018, 11:18:42 am »
After long last i have now upgraded to the Gen 2 basket,i've just put it all back together following the write up in this thread and i think i have made a blunder, i marked friction plate 1 in relation to the dimple but and replaced it in the right position but friction plate 2 was just put in wherever as i didn't know untill i read the link about friction plate 2 being 5 slots off from the dimple,i have just come back off road test and all seems well,should i have it all apart again and move plate 2 or leave s is? What damage can it cause if left like it is?

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #289 on: April 22, 2018, 11:37:22 am »
I did the exact same thing when I first did my Gen 1, rode it and it felt fine. But it bugged me so I striped it out and did it again. Took me all of 20 mins to correct it. 20 mins well spent to not have a nagging feeling when riding.
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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #290 on: April 22, 2018, 01:04:59 pm »
Yes,i'll think i'll have it apart again and get it in the right position,now i've done it once it's not a prob.I do notice now that the bike seems to "clonk" into first gear from a standstill a bit more than it did before,perhaps it's a the plate misalignment, i doubt it but i might aswell put it back as the factory specs.

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #291 on: April 22, 2018, 01:44:25 pm »
What else did you change out? I had the heavy 'clunk' into 1st too,  as I changed out new everything, I put the old plates back in and it was fine again, seemed not to like the new plates......
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« Reply #292 on: April 22, 2018, 01:49:31 pm »
Just changed the basket and a new nut,all the old plates went back in.The bikes only done 8k miles so i thought i'd leave the plates alone

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« Reply #293 on: April 22, 2018, 01:59:35 pm »
Open it up put the plates in the 'right' order, bolt it back up and ride it. There really is not much that can go wrong, if you put everything back in that you took out. Then bleed the clutch fluid, sometimes, air gets in or the seals invert themselves in the mastercylinder.
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« Reply #294 on: May 14, 2018, 10:21:57 pm »
Has anyone had this issue?  I put in the '14 clutch basket....stock friction plates back in....stock pressure plate etc. Ever since I did this..when on the center stand...I'll put it in 1st and the rear tire spools up to 8mph even when the clutch is pulled in. I've bled the clutch system like 5 times, but it still does it. The only reason I noticed this issue is when I went for a test ride initially and when at a stop sign, I let up on the front brake, and even though I had the clutch pulled in, the bike wanted to roll forward. I tried the banjo bolt trick when bleeding the system but it still does it. Took it to the dealer and he can't find anything wrong...checked all tolerances etc. I'm at a loss!  Thoughts??
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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #295 on: May 14, 2018, 11:35:32 pm »
Pull the reservoir cover off, pull the clutch lever in, tie it in the fully depressed position.  Bungie cord, zip tie, what ever.  Leave it that way, with the reservoir cover off, over night.

Then see if the problem persists.  The small volume of the clutch reservoir can make it very difficult to get a complete bleed.  Like you, I did everything, including the banjo bolt trick, but it still felt slightly off at the lever.  Doing what I suggest, (another forum member suggested it to me), did the trick.

The symptoms you describe essentially suggest one of two issues.  Incomplete disengagement, (most likely due to air in the system), or stuck plates.  Stuck plates have occurred, but rarely on a bike that was fine before doing the basket swap.  Usually on left over bikes that sat at a dealer for a long time before being sold.  The new places get stuck together from lack of use and little oil circulation during the time the bike sits.

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #296 on: May 15, 2018, 04:37:34 pm »
I am totally confused now,i have just had the clutch cover off to realign the second clutch plate which i installed wrongly first time round.When i removed the plates from the original basket i marked the lug on plate No1 in line with the dimple on the basket,i have now noticed that although i lined that mark on plate No1 up with the dimple on the new basket that only puts the nick on plate No1 two lugs off from the dimple and not 4 as in the installation,i have ignored my original mark and put plate No1 with the nick 4 lugs offset from the dimple and plate No 2 five lugs offset from the dimple.I am really confused as to what is correct now. :(

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Re: Clutch Basket Remove/Upgrade/Installation
« Reply #297 on: May 15, 2018, 07:39:18 pm »
Thanks EricV....I'll try that tonight!
2013 S10. Racetech front susp. Ohlins rear. HT panniers, crashbars. Seat Concepts seat. ECU flashed PCV. K&N Filter  ACD Skidplate. ProTaper Raptor Bars. Madstad Bracket. Cyclops Headlight. Two Bros Slip-On

2016 Honda CRF250L  RaceTech suspension. Skidplate. Rear Rack. My "put put" toy

 

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