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Offline RonH

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #90 on: February 10, 2018, 08:35:00 pm »
Do new CCTs come already set?


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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #91 on: February 11, 2018, 10:14:50 pm »
Do new CCTs come already set?

Yes.  You just install it and follow the procedure to release it.  People get into difficulty when they play with them...
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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #92 on: February 11, 2018, 10:34:21 pm »
Yes.  You just install it and follow the procedure to release it.  People get into difficulty when they play with them...

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Offline Ramseybella

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2018, 07:08:40 am »
Be aware that Yamaha updated the cam chain tensioner and superseded the old part number.  They did this because of failures, so they are aware of the weakness.  They may or may not acknowledge this and may or may not offer to cover some of the cost of the repair, but it doesn't hurt to have the dealer ask the regional rep or Yamaha warranty manager.

Because of the very long cam chain it's more prone to slipping than other engine designs.  That said, the general rule is to replace the CCT before 50k.  Nearly all the failures have happened after that.  Mine was at 82k.

What's your mileage now?
Yamaha knows all the little gremlins they just don't put out a report or recalls about them..
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Thanks to Robert SM at Bobby J's getting on the horn with Yamaha I had my main wiring harness replaced after months of High idle and stalling.
Not one issue has reared up in almost two months, in fact it runs better than when i bought it.
The line i was told by the Tech that did the work (thank you) the Geeks at Mother Yamaha have found nothing that could have caused this in all the harnesses that have been returned for inspection that had the same problem..
I was well you then chased off a Ghost.. This was all done Free with expired warranty and $500.00 worth of Yamaha credit for the torture, i am truly grateful for what they did.
But that should tell us they know these issues.
I am at 76000 with a manual CCT, gave it a tiny twist once or twice since install four years ago.
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Offline PDX A

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #94 on: May 01, 2018, 04:06:37 pm »
My cam chain just went at 34,000 miles resulting in a massive bill of $3,400. The irony on the bill and cost dosent escape me. Change your cam chain tensioner you 12 and 13 owners ASAP

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #95 on: May 01, 2018, 05:31:53 pm »
My cam chain just went at 34,000 miles resulting in a massive bill of $3,400. The irony on the bill and cost dosent escape me. Change your cam chain tensioner you 12 and 13 owners ASAP

I really hate to hear these stories.Yours is about the lowest mileage failure I have heard of. Yamaha should have done a recall on this PERIOD. Now plenty of 2nd and 3rd owners of a bike and miles finally getting high enough and into the failure range. If the owners are not reading on the forums about this issue and taking action (probably well over 50% don't) the CCT will fail and be a costly repair. It is not a case of IF it will fail, it is a case of WHEN it will fail.
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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #96 on: May 01, 2018, 08:25:41 pm »
Even though I have a second gen model, I think I'm just going to change the tensioner during the next valve clearance check at 52,000 miles. Cheap insurance and it looks like Yamaha has updated the part number yet again since I bought my '15.
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Offline SilverBullet

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #97 on: May 01, 2018, 08:47:56 pm »
My Gen 2 CCT is still quiet as a church mouse after 65K miles. I have no intention of replacing it as long as it stays quiet. My Gen 1 CCT started making a little noise at 13K miles. I had it replaced under YES at 42K miles when it got a little louder. I think I'll need to replace the cam chain before the CCT.
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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #98 on: May 01, 2018, 09:07:39 pm »
Any other opinions on the value of preemptively replacing the cam chain tensioner on the 2014 model?  Mine 2014 has 46,000 on it, and by the time I get back from Utah it'll be close to its second valve check, which is probably a good time to do it if it's going to be done.  I don't have any of the symptoms of an impending failure.
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Offline SilverBullet

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #99 on: May 01, 2018, 09:34:12 pm »
Why not install a manual CCT if you're thinking to replace? I probably would have already done that instead of a Gen 2 CCT if not for my YES coverage.

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Offline RCinNC

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #100 on: May 01, 2018, 10:32:28 pm »
I really haven't formed an opinion one way or another about replacing the CCT, either OEM or a manual aftermarket one.  Just more or less soliciting some opinions on the necessity of replacing an OEM one when it isn't displaying any symptoms.
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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #101 on: May 02, 2018, 12:17:27 am »
RCinNC, the CCT is a wear item, I believe, so probably a good idea to change out with a new unit anyway.............
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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #102 on: May 02, 2018, 11:04:05 am »
No need to change your CCT on '14 and up models. No start-up noise= no problem.
 Having said that, if you were to change it, the manual CCT can be changed without removing the valve cover. The OEM is a crapshoot without removing the valve cover. The manual one however, needs adjustment occasionally, or you will end up with the same problem as a failed Gen1 OEM.
 Pick your poison.

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Re: Super Tenere Cam Chain Tensioner Failure
« Reply #103 on: May 02, 2018, 12:31:34 pm »
No need to change your CCT on '14 and up models. No start-up noise= no problem.
 Having said that, if you were to change it, the manual CCT can be changed without removing the valve cover. The OEM is a crapshoot without removing the valve cover. The manual one however, needs adjustment occasionally, or you will end up with the same problem as a failed Gen1 OEM.
 Pick your poison.

The big difference is that an OEM CCT can go from zero noise to total failure in a fraction of a second, but with a manual CCT you will start getting some chain noise that will gradually get louder over a long period of time, giving you time to adjust it way before any damage is done. 

 

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