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Offline Belaflek

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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #45 on: August 11, 2014, 01:49:52 pm »
quick update
Looks like the pistons are back ordered. Everything else is at the dealer i think.
I think that's about $3200 worth of parts

   Quantity Description
14B-12213-00-00  GASKET, TENSIONER CA
93210-12790-00    3 0-RING
23P-15462-00-00   1 GASKET, CRANKCASE CO
23P-15451-00-00   1 GASKET, CRANKCASE CO
23P-15455-00-00   1 GASKET 1
23P-11631-00-00   2 2BS-W1163-00-00
93450-23167-00   4 C1RCLIP
23P-11650-00-00   2 CONNECTING ROD ASSY
23P-11416-00-00   6 PLANE BEARING, CRANK
23P-11416-10-00   6 PLANE BEARING, CRANK
23P-11416-40-00   6 PLANE BEARING, CRANK
23P-11416-30-00   6 PLANE BEARING, CRANK
23P-11416-20-00   6 PLANE BEARING, CRANK
23P-11656-00-00   4 PLANE BEARING, CONNE
23P-11656-30-00   4 PLANE BEARING, CONNE
23P-11656-20-00   4 PLANE BEARING, CONNE
23P-11656-10-00   4 PLANE BEARING, CONNE
23P-11400-00-00   1 CRANKSHAFT ASSY
93210-16275-00   1 0-RING
23P-11351-00-00   1 GASKET, CYLINDER
23P-11193-00-00   1 GASKET, HEAD COVER 1
23P-11181-00-00   1 GASKET, CYLINDER HEA
5VY-8A8E0-00-00   1 0-RING
5VY-8A8E1-00-00   2 0-RING 1
4FM-14613-00-00   2 GASKET,EXST PIPE
5VY-14714-00-00   1 GASKET, MUFFLER
93210-82003-00   1 0-RING
93210-23326-00   1 0-RING
93210-15566-00   1 0-RING
93210-27778-00      1 0-RING
23P-11311-01-00     1 CYLINDER 1
2BS-W1163-00-00    2 PISTON (STD)
2012 Blue Super ten
Altrider Crash
Hepco & Beckler skid
Madstad bracket
Bumot 41/45 Pannier system
Kriega US20 drypack
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Offline Don in Lodi

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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #46 on: August 11, 2014, 03:19:11 pm »
While that thing is all broken down I wonder if there is anything I can ask them to do since they are in there

Update the cam chain tensioner and clutch basket.  ::008::
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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #47 on: August 11, 2014, 05:52:37 pm »
Hopefully you'll get the 2014 pistons and cylinders. Throw in a hot cam while your at it. Vrroom  ;D
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Offline Sckill

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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2017, 09:24:11 am »
Digging this thread up because I think my 2012 S10 is having the same issue.  The bike is currently in the dealership and it hasn't been officially diagnosed as a spun lower rod bearing, but it sounds very similar to Belaflek's bike from the youtube video when the bike is sitting in neutral and clacking is heard when a bit of throttle is applied.

The bike was never run without oil and ran fine earlier in May when I rode from Atlanta to the Romney rally and back.  After that trip, the bike was parked in the garage and I didn't move it until a couple of weeks ago when I tried to go out for a ride.  The bike initially refused to start up at first and then when I finally got it started up, there was an awful clacking noise which settled down to the usual idle noise, but with clacking when throttle is applied.

In the couple of years since your engine was fixed, have you had any further issues?  My 2012 is still under extended warranty until 2018, but I'm losing confidence in this bike and I'm undecided now on whether to keep the 2012 and hope it lasts, get a newer Tenere and move all of my accessories over, get a FJR, or maybe go a different route and get the XSR 900 which I was originally planning as a second bike.
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Offline Don in Lodi

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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2017, 10:10:20 am »
Digging this thread up because I think my 2012 S10 is having the same issue.  The bike is currently in the dealership and it hasn't been officially diagnosed as a spun lower rod bearing, but it sounds very similar to Belaflek's bike from the youtube video when the bike is sitting in neutral and clacking is heard when a bit of throttle is applied.

The bike was never run without oil and ran fine earlier in May when I rode from Atlanta to the Romney rally and back.  After that trip, the bike was parked in the garage and I didn't move it until a couple of weeks ago when I tried to go out for a ride.  The bike initially refused to start up at first and then when I finally got it started up, there was an awful clacking noise which settled down to the usual idle noise, but with clacking when throttle is applied.

In the couple of years since your engine was fixed, have you had any further issues?  My 2012 is still under extended warranty until 2018, but I'm losing confidence in this bike and I'm undecided now on whether to keep the 2012 and hope it lasts, get a newer Tenere and move all of my accessories over, get a FJR, or maybe go a different route and get the XSR 900 which I was originally planning as a second bike.


Sounds more like the 2012 cam chain tensioner bleed down problem to me.
Don in Lodi
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1986 XL600
1981 XL185
1969 CT90

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Offline msch

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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2017, 08:55:32 am »
Hi Belafleck. Would be nice if you tell us the root cause that caused the damaged motor. Also would be interesting to know why your dealer decides to change the oil pump that I suspect ended pumping oil.

I had a similar problem that started with an abused clutch that ended with aluminium parts in the oil pan. The oil pump catched the particles and failed. I cleaned the oil pan and changed the oil pump (thanks to Snakebitten and Tabasco rideonadv.com help), but should have disassembled the motor to clean particles spread all-around. Lesson learned is that the oil filter take a small amount of particles out of the oil loop, but if larger amount of stuff circulates, the oil filter has a relief valve that opens and lets contaminated oil circulate without showing oil level problems before the oil pump fails...ending with damaged motor.
About 600 miles later I ended with the same motor noise you posted in youtube.
Took my bike to the Yamaha service. End result: damaged crankcase, one rod and bearings. The motor was completely disassembled and all damaged parts changed. Bike is running back smoothly. Yamaha guarantee did not apply since I did the first steps of an incomplete service,....but ended with a new 2017 S10 bike with a special discount.
After the clutch failure I should have stopped the bike immediately, taken out the oil pan and cleaned the clutch stuff and changed the clutch plates).
If ST Owners ride of road with high demand on the clutch, I suggest to change to the barnet system (Jaxon has lots of experience and can supply it).

I attach pictures of my damaged motor.
The link to the thread of my long story is http://www.yamahasupertenere.com/index.php?topic=21534.0
 
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Re: Bike in the shop (now in technicolor)
« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2017, 09:37:00 am »
msch brings up an excellent point that applies to any motorcycle, in that an oil filter can only provide a limited amount of protection before the pores block and it goes into by-pass. At that point, ALL the debris from an abused clutch (and any other dirt) is going to pass through the filter to go to to the oil pump and then the bearings are the first thing downstream from the pump.


This on the operator and not a fault of the bike, so don't expect warranty coverage.


Changing the filter early never is a bad thing, especially if abusing the clutch enough to feel a change at the lever.
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