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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #285 on: June 02, 2018, 05:28:29 pm »
I finally called it today and pulled off the Mitas EO7 Dakars.  I was at the wear bars front and rear, a bit farther down than CW showed in his pic.  Milage was 17,787 miles.  Best wear I've gotten from a bike tire on the Super Ten, or anything else, except the Car Tire on the FJR.  Surprisingly even wear front and rear.  Even the Heidenau K60s wore the rears faster than the front, even if I did get 12k from those rears.  I have to admit though, this is the longest time period I've had a set of bike tires on in a decade too.  About 14 months.  Lots of short local rides instead of my previous long distance riding and endurance rallies.  Life changes.

Tossed on some Pirelli Angel GTs for some dedicated street rubber for a change.  It's been something like 70k miles since I rode street only rubber.  Funny, didn't really notice much difference on the first ride with the Angles.  No low speed vibes,  but the EO7s never really got bad handling, even at the end.  I'm looking forward to a few hundred mile ride tomorrow with lots of twisty canyon roads and some wide open Nevada landscape.  Should be fun on the fresh rubber.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #286 on: June 03, 2018, 10:25:30 am »
I finally called it today and pulled off the Mitas EO7 Dakars.  I was at the wear bars front and rear, a bit farther down than CW showed in his pic.  Milage was 17,787 miles.  Best wear I've gotten from a bike tire on the Super Ten, or anything else, except the Car Tire on the FJR.  Surprisingly even wear front and rear.  Even the Heidenau K60s wore the rears faster than the front, even if I did get 12k from those rears.  I have to admit though, this is the longest time period I've had a set of bike tires on in a decade too.  About 14 months.  Lots of short local rides instead of my previous long distance riding and endurance rallies.  Life changes.

Tossed on some Pirelli Angel GTs for some dedicated street rubber for a change.  It's been something like 70k miles since I rode street only rubber.  Funny, didn't really notice much difference on the first ride with the Angles.  No low speed vibes,  but the EO7s never really got bad handling, even at the end.  I'm looking forward to a few hundred mile ride tomorrow with lots of twisty canyon roads and some wide open Nevada landscape.  Should be fun on the fresh rubber.


These wear bars?  LOL - This rear was past the centerline wear bar a couple of thousand miles before this was taken.
What you see are rain grooves created by a dremel tool to keep using the tire since it got so squirrelly in the rain.
And your getting 17,000 is still nearly 5,000 beyond what I got.
The front is pretty scalloped, it just doesn't show very well.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #287 on: June 03, 2018, 10:41:58 am »
I assume he's referring to these wear bars.



They are not as plentiful as I've seen on other tires, but they are there.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #288 on: June 03, 2018, 10:30:12 pm »

These wear bars?  LOL - This rear was past the centerline wear bar a couple of thousand miles before this was taken.
What you see are rain grooves created by a dremel tool to keep using the tire since it got so squirrelly in the rain.
And your getting 17,000 is still nearly 5,000 beyond what I got.
The front is pretty scalloped, it just doesn't show very well.

Not those wear bars, the real ones you didn't get to.  You have to flatten out the rear more before they show up between the grooves.  On the front, it's mostly just when the center rib meets the outside blocks, you're done.  I had some cupping, but not as much as on K60s and not near as noisy in the turns, though started to notice it more around 12k or so.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2018, 01:25:44 pm »
Mounted up my Dakar rear on Sunday. A picture because everyone likes pictures ;)



A couple of observations:

1 - On wet pavement it's slick, really slick before being scrubbed in properly. We got a little rain Sunday night, pulling out of the neighborhood on damp roads on my commute the rear stepped out on me pretty far even though I was consciously trying to take it easy. Easy does it if you have to ride a new E07 in the rain, even more so than most tires.

2 - Between 74-80 MPH I'm getting a noticeable shimmy from the rear like it's out of balance. Up to that speed, and beyond that speed it's as smooth as any other tire.

Is a little shimmy typical of a new E07? I've not run something as aggressive as a 50/50 tire before, so maybe they take a while to bed in? I only have about 75 miles of mostly back road ~60 MPH riding on the tire.

It's possible I didn't get a good balance on it, but I've never had to pull a tire to balance it again in the countless (but almost exclusively street biased) tires I've mounted and balanced.

Thoughts?

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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #290 on: June 06, 2018, 01:34:49 pm »
Try ceramic beads. Probably will fix your problem.  I use them. Works every time.

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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #291 on: June 06, 2018, 02:26:36 pm »
When you are not used to a tire that is 50/50, my guess is that the shimmy is because of more open "pattern". And it is possible that you only notice it at a specific speed.
And therefore everything is OK :) But of course, it is a guess...
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #292 on: June 06, 2018, 05:33:22 pm »
E0-7s do that when new, It take about 1,000 miles to smooth out.  All mine have.

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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #293 on: June 06, 2018, 06:27:33 pm »
I’ve read some reviews that claimed that vibration is caused by the very square corners but supposedly it goes away after the tire gets some miles on it and the corners get slightly rounded.
I see your rear Dakar came with the yellow stripe, do you or anyone else know if the front Dakar comes with a yellow stripe ?

There are Dakar’s advertised on eBay and the yellow stripe is not visible in the pictures so that makes me wonder if they are actually Dakar’s

Mounted up my Dakar rear on Sunday. A picture because everyone likes pictures ;)



A couple of observations:

1 - On wet pavement it's slick, really slick before being scrubbed in properly. We got a little rain Sunday night, pulling out of the neighborhood on damp roads on my commute the rear stepped out on me pretty far even though I was consciously trying to take it easy. Easy does it if you have to ride a new E07 in the rain, even more so than most tires.

2 - Between 74-80 MPH I'm getting a noticeable shimmy from the rear like it's out of balance. Up to that speed, and beyond that speed it's as smooth as any other tire.

Is a little shimmy typical of a new E07? I've not run something as aggressive as a 50/50 tire before, so maybe they take a while to bed in? I only have about 75 miles of mostly back road ~60 MPH riding on the tire.

It's possible I didn't get a good balance on it, but I've never had to pull a tire to balance it again in the countless (but almost exclusively street biased) tires I've mounted and balanced.

Thoughts?

trey
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #294 on: June 06, 2018, 09:22:59 pm »
I have a new pair of Dakars to mount if/when the Bridgestones ever wear out. Yes, both front and rear have the yellow stripe on the Dakar.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #295 on: June 07, 2018, 09:09:01 am »
E0-7s do that when new, It take about 1,000 miles to smooth out.  All mine have.

Perfect, thanks  ::008::

I was hoping the answer was ride more and it'll smooth out. I'd be pretty annoyed if I went to the trouble of taking off the wheel again only to find it was well balanced the first time. Plan to put at least a couple hundred miles on this weekend in the mornings before it gets hot.

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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #296 on: June 09, 2018, 03:05:04 pm »
E0-7s do that when new, It take about 1,000 miles to smooth out.  All mine have.


I put a little over 200 miles of back road 2 lane on it this morning before it got hot out and it's much, much, smoother. I think the hard edges just needed to soften on the lugs (which I can see visually that they have). It's about as smooth as a pure road tire now and I bet it'll get a little smoother yet like you say with a few more miles (maybe 350 miles total on the tire now).



Thanks again for the reassurance -- I couldn't find squat online to confirm they're a little rough at first. I would've removed the wheel and checked the balance for nothing if you hadn't posted your experience.

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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #297 on: June 13, 2018, 11:06:07 am »
If you have an eBay account check you messages, My eBay messages has a 10% ebay bucks deal that ends on the 14th so tomorrow I’m going to order a set of Mitas Dakar’s for my Tenere.  If you have the eBay message be sure to activate it before ordering or you won’t get the 10%, for me after clicking buy it now it shows in I will get $29.50 in eBay bucks.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitas-E-07-DAKAR-Dual-Sport-PAIR-Motorcycle-Tires-110-80-19-150-70-17-BMW-GS-SET/382189304811?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D4356665d5b74476faf2b3deb4533a510%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D382189304811%26itm%3D382189304811&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A90e45f02-6f12-11e8-b82d-74dbd180610f%7Cparentrq%3Af9757cce1630a9e802e7b3d3fff0ab3b%7Ciid%3A1
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #298 on: June 15, 2018, 09:06:20 pm »
I'm in eastern Kansas right now, heading for Colorado, Utah and New Mexico.  I've put about 1200 miles on the E07's  over the past three days on all kinds of roads, and so far my only complaint (and it's not much of a complaint) is that they're a little noisy on the highway.
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Re: The Mitas E-07 tire thread merge-fest
« Reply #299 on: June 16, 2018, 12:15:16 am »
I'm in eastern Kansas right now, heading for Colorado, Utah and New Mexico.  I've put about 1200 miles on the E07's  over the past three days on all kinds of roads, and so far my only complaint (and it's not much of a complaint) is that they're a little noisy on the highway.

Exactly which E07’s do you have ?  I ordered a set of E07 Dakar’s yesterday.
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